Posted on 01/23/2021 2:23:53 PM PST by Onthebrink
Here in the United States, there are many issues that people love to debate. While politics tops the list today, there are certainly other issues that could divide the country and leave people flustered and downright hostile. Up there with the best city for pizza or whether baseball should have a designated hitter rule is the issue of “what makes a good home self-defense gun?”
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ALSO-—a LARGE can of HORNET SPRAY—shoots 20 feet accurately.
The one you have.
Welcome to California...Hell on earth...unless you’re an illegal (not undocumented) alien not (migrant).
“What would make a good home defense gun?”
Inbefore M240 SAW...
A good home defense gun is one that is comfortable in your hand and one that you are willing to practice with, ideally take training with, and that gets you to the point that you can hit a human target twice, center mass, at 2AM aroused from sleep realizing that the worst day of your life has just arrived.
For most normal people that is not a 12ga pump shotgun.
It's also tough to learn and tough to administer.
+1
Short, sweet, and God's honest truth.
The best home defense gun is the one in your hand.
So, he should be good to go sometime in 2022?
If the bad guy(s) can see the hole, or can see YOU, or can hear you racking the slide, you have surrendered your most important tactical advantage.
That shit works in the movies.
IRL, ideally, he won't hear you at all, because by the time the sound wave arrives he will already be dead.
Baclava! Put down that icepick!
My long gun is a Turkish-made Mossberg SA-20.
Certainly at my average guy level of ability, it's a lot easier to shoot and to administer than my first home defense gun, a...you guessed it...Remington 870.
Good against remotes, that's one thing. Good against the living?
Pump operation, whether you "know how to use it" or not, is a lot harder during an adrenaline dump.
That way when the SHTF their will be plenty of ammo laying about.
For me it is 9mm, 5,56mm and 12 gauge.
Also add a scoped rifle for reaching out long distance, if you are capable, say .300 win mag or 30.06.
Then maybe something quiet like a crossbow.
Of course this is over kill for some, but if you are capable, it could be needed.
I don’t even own a shotgun anymore. The last shotgun I owned was a...you guessed it....a Remington 870. It’s a good gun and I should have one but if I were in the market for a shotgun these days, it would be an M4. I like the idea of semi-automatic cycling against multiple armed intruders. You need to get those shots off fast, faster than a pump allows IMO at least. That’s why I prefer rifles.
Well, let me be perfectly frank.
The thread was started by a guy who is just getting started, and he wants "the best".
My first home defense gun was. Remington 870, for all the reasons that pop up on every one of these threads. "The bad guys will run away when you rack the slide", "Just point and shoot", and all that other bullshit.
The question is NOT "how fast does a Remington 870 ALLOW you to shoot", the question for our noob and all others is, "How fast can YOU shoot a pump shotgun under extreme stress with shaking hands?"
An M4 is on my wish list but I really like the semi-tacticalized Mossberg SA-20. I'm quite confident, not that "it can do the job" but that I can do the job with it as my tool.
I never got there with the 870.
I’m just talking guns.
I didn’t say a damn thing about racking a slide........or a movie either..........thanks for your failed projection. Try again next time.
If using ‘snake rounds’ a .38 or 357 would be better. I was referencing the new cavitation rounds for .32 acp. Since there is so little recoil repeat shots are quick and accurate. I came across a special on Italian Police used Beretta 32s with twelve round mag. Bought two and extra mags. The cavitation rounds are expensive, but the results on water filled milk jugs is very impressive.
Even a .22 pellet rifle will kill when the round enters the brain pan. A .22 pistol (like the GSG 1911 replicas) is quite deadly with a laser attached. Fifteen round mags are available for them, also.
I don’t think I commented on anything you wrote.
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