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1 posted on 01/19/2021 6:34:52 AM PST by Onthebrink
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No doubt an impressive weapon in its class. But would you want to be part of its crew on a modern battlefield with stealthy drones overhead?


2 posted on 01/19/2021 6:37:23 AM PST by allendale
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Get back to me when they can network them as well as even the M1-A2.

Nice design though.

They do love their autoloaders.


3 posted on 01/19/2021 6:39:06 AM PST by Blueflag
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I always think of Saddam’s tanks littered all over the battlefield and wonder how much he spent on them and how many men died. All a waste.


6 posted on 01/19/2021 6:46:54 AM PST by alternatives? (If our borders are not secure, why fund an army?)
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I wonder if a targeted EMP burst would disable it (or any modern tank)?


10 posted on 01/19/2021 6:53:59 AM PST by dynachrome ( “The people have spoken . . . and they must be punished.” Ed Koch. Sauve Qui Peut)
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It doesn’t look like they went to much trouble to protect the turret ring, which is usually considered a pretty vulnerable spot on an MBT.


13 posted on 01/19/2021 6:55:51 AM PST by Joe 6-pack
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Tanks can take a town. But tanks can’t hold a town.


15 posted on 01/19/2021 6:57:06 AM PST by rexthecat (nks!)
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That bit about the toilet reminds me of a WW2 story.

Josif Broz, A.K.A. Marshal Tito, was the primary leader of the Yugoslavian partisans fighting the Germans. Shortly after the war began in his country, he was interviewed.

The reporter asked him, “How are your partisans, armed only with old rifles, going to defeat the Germans and their new Panzers?”

Simultaneously displaying tactical and strategic wisdom, as well as a sense of humor, he replied: “When the Germans get out of their new Panzers to take a piss, my partisans will shoot them with their old rifles.”

I guess that the Russians also heard that story. :>)


24 posted on 01/19/2021 8:19:00 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, “The Weapon Shops of Isher”)
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Specs and numbers, blah, blah, blah......get back with me and others when it has been battlefield tested on the level of the Abrams.....


38 posted on 01/19/2021 9:00:48 AM PST by cranked
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The Russian Ministry of Defense came to the conclusion that one cannot especially rush with large batches of Armatas due to extreme cost, the main reason, and firing visual problems with the unmanned turrets. And their emphasis should be placed on the T-72, T-80, and T-90 tanks, using the huge modernization potential inherent in them having received modern laser rangefinders and aiming systems, fire control, infrared vision, and protection (Arena and Shtora) against anti-tank missiles, these machines become even more formidable weapons, not inferior in combat power to the Abrams, Leopards and others. Russia doesn’t have that tree in the back yard growing money either.

wy69


39 posted on 01/19/2021 9:16:15 AM PST by whitney69
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