House Impeachment Manager Gives the Game Away - It's NOT about incitement of insurrection

Red State ^ | 01/18/2021 | Bonchie

[SeekAndFind]

President Donald Trump has been officially impeached for a second time, with the latest attempt striking me as no more legitimate than the last. As I’ve shared in other articles, factually, I don’t believe Trump ever incited violence on January 6th when a group of QAnon morons rushed the Capitol Building. He pointedly said to protest “peacefully” in his speech given prior to the action. While his previous comments on the election being stolen may have gotten people worked up, that’s hardly a viable standard for incitement — otherwise, many more politicians would be in jail right now.

Looking at all the aspects of this, I simply don’t believe there’s some deeply principled, justified reason to be impeaching Trump after he’s left office. Right now, the Senate trial isn’t even scheduled, and the President is gone on Wednesday.

Now, a Democrat House Impeachment manager is giving the game away. This has always really been about stopping Trump in 2024.

A House impeachment manager acknowledged on Sunday that one reason for charging President Donald Trump with incitement of insurrection was to prevent the outgoing commander in chief from trying to become president againhttps://t.co/H3ttnr6Nje

— POLITICO (@politico) January 18, 2021

A House impeachment manager acknowledged on Sunday that one reason for charging President Donald Trump with incitement of insurrection was to prevent the outgoing commander in chief from trying to become president again.

“One of the other purposes of impeachment in this case is to make sure that President Trump is not able to run for federal office again, that he’s not able to seek the presidency,” Rep. Joaquin Castro (D-Texas) told George Stephanopoulos on ABC’s “This Week.”

There’s nothing quite as democratic as abusing the constitutional power of impeachment, moving forward on mere partisan supposition, in order to stop voters from having the opportunity to vote for who they want. Would I prefer an 80 year old Trump as the nominee in 2024 over some other options? No, I wouldn’t, but you’d better believe I think voters have the right to make that decision individually.

Democrats are terrified that carrying a failing Biden administration into 2024, with an awful standard-bearer like Kamala Harris at the forefront, is a recipe for a Trump resurgence. Of course, if they were smart, they’d let this impeachment nonsense go. Perhaps Trump gets bored and decides he’d rather play golf for the rest of his days? But if you poke the bear, don’t be surprised when he bites. This is only going to fire up Trump and his supporters more to make another go at it.

Regardless, impeachment shouldn’t be used this way. It was never meant to be a tool used under specious circumstances to stop a political opponent from being able to run for office again. No crime was committed here by Trump, nor is there any evidence of actual incitement on Trump’s part. Voters should get to make their own decision on the matter, not some partisans in Washington hoping to take advantage of short-term hysteria.

[DJ MacWoW]

Ivana was not a citizen when he was born.

Neither were George Washingtons parents or Adams, Madison, Jefferson.....Obamas father NEVER became a citizen. Kamalas parents weren't citizens when she was born. It doesn't matter much anymore.

[WildHighlander57]

I’m not nervous.

Just asking a question; basis was the Minor vs Happersett case.

See the dicta (comments) in that decision.

[100American]

All I will say is keep your eyes open and your powder dry

Sic Semper Tyrranis

[CurlyDave]

Don Jr. is not a natural born citizen. Only Tiffany and Barron were born here. They are going to follow the constitution.

According the Wikipedia: "Trump Jr. was born on December 31, 1977, in Manhattan, New York City, to Ivana and Donald Trump."

There are many of us who think that being born in Manhattan would qualify him as a natural-born citizen. Do you have more knowledge on this subject?

[gcparent]

The forefathers made an exception for themselves.

[masadaman]

The Presidents who were alive when the Constitution was adopted were grandfathered in by Article II, Section 1. “No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution...”. It is the definition of natural born citizen that draws heated debate.

[grey_whiskers]

Yeah, that didn't stop 0moeba (screw the birth certificate, his Dad was a British subject, right? Remember King George III and all that?)

Or Ted Cruz.

Or Heels-up Harris.

[familyop]

Donald Trump Jr. was born in Manhattan. His father, Donald Trump, is an American President. Donald Trump Jr. is very American.

There will be no woman president.

[SisterK]

This is so dumb.
Donald Trump Jr. could run.

and who will count the ballots?

[gitmo]

What’s this “Constitution” you’re talking about?

There’s no such thing anymore.

[jonrick46]

“If it feels good, do it,” the mantra of the 60s, has replaced the Constitution. It has become the template for lawlessness and anarchy. It brought the death of truth and, in its place the godless spirit of tyranny.

[FenwickBabbitt]

The Dems have been working overtime to end free and fair elections in this country for good. At least the Marxo-Fascists realize that the people want Trump in 2024. Otherwise they wouldn’t bother trying to end democratic elections in order to prevent him from running. At least at this point, they are open about only allowing pre-approved candidates who will do as the DC establishment and the media/tech oligarchs demand, which of course makes elections meaningless even without fraud and changing election laws to whatever will ensure Dem wins.

[DJ MacWoW]

Yes, the Founders made an exception for themselves. I was on the "Birther" threads. That seems like a loooooong time ago!

The Democrats made an exception for Obama. His "father" never had any intention of gaining citizenship whereas Don Jr's mother became a citizen. According to them, he's eligible.

[ridesthemiles]

Not about where born entirely. About Mothers not yet being USA citizens.

ONLY TIFFANY is NBC...

However—since the Dems have now shoved 2 NONE ELIGIBLE candidates down our throats, they have lost THAT argument.

[ridesthemiles]

Article II

Section 1

Clause 5

Please find it & read it.

BY YOUR interpretation, ANY ANCHOR BABY born on US soil can be President.

That is NOT TRUE....

[ridesthemiles]

Was Ivana a USA citizen by then?? Or later??

[ridesthemiles]

NOT US BORN...

U S CITIZENS when child is born.

The devil is in the details.

[ridesthemiles]

YES, THERE IS

Article II

Section 1

Clause 5

Find it & read it

[DJ MacWoW]

Ivana became a citizen later but the precedent has already been set by Obama. His "father" never became a citizen.

[ridesthemiles]

Article 11

Section 1

Clause 5

Constitution

Should have been applied to Obama, and Pelosi cheated & certified his candidacy.

Also applies to Harris....

Since the Dems have violated NBC 2 times, then ANYONE might be a candidate in the future.