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Who will serve the GOP best in the future.
https://thehill.com/ ^ | 10th January 2020 | Ozguy1945

Posted on 01/10/2021 12:44:00 AM PST by Ozguy1945

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To: precisionshootist

Should everyone that has traditionally voted Republican now not vote for any US President, Senator, or Congressman, like you and your 10 million homies?

And don’t evade like you did on my “What Texas amendment” question. That ain’t real Texan.


161 posted on 01/10/2021 3:25:51 PM PST by BiglyCommentary
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To: BiglyCommentary
"Should everyone that has traditionally voted Republican now not vote for any US President, Senator, or Congressman, like you and your 10 million homies?"

They should do what they feel is right. I'm not trying to tell people not to vote. I just know how politics works and can almost write a money back guarantee that the GOP will lose some ten million voters for the foreseeable future. That's really only about 1 in 8 but that will sink their ship for many many years to come if not forever.

I have voted in every election since Reagan but will not bother from here out. (federal elections). Now Texas only issues I will be involved.

You should understand that it would not matter even if I did vote in future federal elections as the commies that have usurped our government WILL determine the outcome. The time to secure our elections has long past. You can vote until the cows come home and if every democrat stayed home we would still lose any meaningful race.

Trump won this election by a huge margin. Do you think that is going to change when the commies are in complete control? 2022 will come and the commies will pick up a lot more seats no matter how many republicans or democrats vote.

162 posted on 01/10/2021 5:32:04 PM PST by precisionshootist
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To: poconopundit
"Anything can be accomplished if you take responsibility for doing at least 80 percent to 90 percent of it yourself. Pass the remaining 10-20 percent of responsibility on to others and give them all the credit."

Wise words...

163 posted on 01/10/2021 8:52:53 PM PST by GOPJ (Seventy-three million citizens thought the election was rigged - enough to start a new party.)
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To: precisionshootist

I asked you two very simple and straight forward questions that you did not directly answer. Your continued EVASIVENESS tells me all I need to know.

1) In your opinion, should all those who have voted GOP in the past, now NOT vote for President, or US Senator or Congressman?

2) What Constitutional amendment that Texas passed that will also get 3/4ths of the other states to vote for?


164 posted on 01/10/2021 10:26:54 PM PST by BiglyCommentary
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To: Dagny Taggart; NautiNurse
I would say Ron Desantis

I'd love to see Ron DeSantis as President someday.

165 posted on 01/10/2021 10:30:31 PM PST by nutmeg (Mega prayers for Rush Limbaugh)
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To: BiglyCommentary

First I did answer your questions. Second, you have demonstrated complete ignorance in your posts about amending the constitution by a convention of states. I’m not getting into specifics about Texas. You can do your own research. I don’t have any more time to waste. .


166 posted on 01/10/2021 11:19:17 PM PST by precisionshootist
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To: precisionshootist

You DID NOT. I ASKED YOU A DIRECT AND SIMPLE QUESTION, Your answer: “They should do what they want” IS NOT A DIRECT ANSWER. YES OR NO IS A DIRECT ANSWER. EVASIVE. AND WHY THE CONTINUED EVASIVENESS, DODGING, BOBBING, WEAVING?

Because you know damned well that by saying “Yes”, it would expose and show what a delusional FOOL’S ERRAND you are on, by creating a US Senate with 100 RAT Senators and 528 RAT congressman, and a packed 100% liberal/leftist SCOTUS, with all that would mean.

And if you answer “NO”, it would show that your personal choice of YES was a fraud, not worthy of others to do.

And you can’t give one single solitary amendment because it would get laughed at, since there will always be at least 13 blue states that would vote NO, and so once again, show what a FOOL’S ERRAND you are on.

Just a poser that will accomplish ZIP, ZERO, no real positive change that stands a SNOWBALLS CHANCE IN HELL of doing anything for the country. Good riddance.


167 posted on 01/10/2021 11:50:11 PM PST by BiglyCommentary
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To: nutmeg; Dagney Taggart

We need DeSantis to remain FL governor for another four years to manage the influx of new residents and to keep our state running smoothly.


168 posted on 01/11/2021 2:42:12 AM PST by NautiNurse (It took 20 years for FL to clean up voter fraud in Broward and Palm Beach Counties. But we did it. )
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To: NautiNurse
If not DeSantis for prez in 2024... how about Mike Pompeo? Those two are about the strongest contenders I can think of right now.

Then again... Who knows if we'll ever have a free and fair election again?? Sure looks doubtful at this point...

169 posted on 01/11/2021 10:40:33 AM PST by nutmeg (Mega prayers for Rush Limbaugh)
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To: GotMojo
The strongly embedded concept of the "Two Party System" of democratic government was probably appropriate up to about 70 years ago.

That's about when Political Science really became an advanced "Science", and provided the elites the tools and techniques to improve and perfect their influence and power.

One result is that the "Two Party System" has effectively been corrupted to the core, by dramatic dilution of values in both the GOP (Republican) and Democrat parties, In actuality BOTH parties have been effectively destroyed in favor of one world government control at the expense of our liberties.

One of the greatest generals (and Presidents) of all time understood this well, and made this prophecy:

Eisenhower Farewell Address (Best Quality) - 'Military Industrial Complex' WARNING

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyBNmecVtdU

(you can download a transcript PDF of the speech here)

https://www.gilderlehrman.org/sites/default/files/inline-pdfs/Eisenhower%20Farewell%20Address%20abridged_0.pdf

Most people alive today have never seen or heard that prophecy. We are about to witness the magnificent fulfillment of that prophecy exactly 60 years after it was made.

170 posted on 01/11/2021 10:46:04 AM PST by Grandpa Drudge (Just an old man, desperate to preserve our great country for my great grandchildren.)
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To: poconopundit

You can probably tell, if you are a fan, that I have been listening to Bill Whittle.

I have a good friend who is in a state of semi-despair about all this, and when I got to talk to him for a few hours face to face, his lament was: “Who is going to stand up for us? Who is going to save us?”

I admit to being subject to that same type of despair, but I am trying to move off of it, because nothing-NOTHING-can make you feel more despair than the realization that you aren’t going to be rescued.

I consider myself well read on a wide variety of subjects, and one of those subjects is how people face their fate when confronted with a given situation.

It is a recurring theme, whether it is an outpost of soldiers being attacked by overwhelming numbers of enemy, a pilot adrift in the vast Pacific in a rubber raft, someone who has fallen into a remote ravine or a ship caught in the vise of ice and crushed as the Shackelton Expedition was...that point where it hits home that “There will be no Calvary riding over the hill, no search and rescue seaplane happening upon you, a search party of people appearing to save you, or a ship that might just happen upon you before the day of ubiquitous radio communications.

You are on your own. You are all alone.

In all of these types of things, coming to that realization that you are alone and nobody is going to save you, is the blackest of times.

But for those who survive, it is often the beginning of real survival.

Until that realization, most of those people haven’t gotten it right in their heads that they can only depend on themselves.

Once they do that, they accept that they are going to have to defend themselves in their perimeter foxhole as best they can and/or die in the process, or figure out a way to make themselves live as long as they can in that raft on what they have or can get in the hope of increasing their chances, or how to get out of that ravine to go for help on their own, or how to live off penguin meat for a year and travel 800 miles in an open boat in the arctic winter to get help.

Dan Bongino put it well-he likened it to being told you have cancer. Up until the point your physician tells you have cancer, you haven’t done anything. You have simply been letting the cancer do its fiendish and destructive work quietly and behind the scenes.

Once you get that kick in the nuts (or whatever part of your body hurts the most when kicked) you reach the lowest, gut-churning point of your life, you realize you are mortal, and that your days may be numbered.

But that is also the day, often moments later, when you actually begin to fight back and retake ground lost to the cancer. You may begin taking immediate steps to halt or retard the spread, and then, perhaps roll it back, retaking ground.

For true Americans, it is that point (For many of us, November 3, 2020) when we as conservatives were given the diagnosis of cancer. Like many cancer victims who had gone years feeling the effects of an an undiagnosed cancer slowly eating their body and knowing in their hearts that something was wrong, many of us conservatives have known for some time that we were being eaten from within as a nation, and after November 3, 2020, being officially given that diagnosis, that fighting back is going to follow.

We will fight back. We may again lose the judiciary and have to retake it as Trump did...we may have the border wall torn down and have to build it again, our industries may be ravaged by Leftist policies and have to be rebuilt...again.

But perhaps we can fight back, and next time, force these scumbags to resort to open armed conflict to bring our country down, rather than allowing them to rely on tactics such as an illegal, cowardly, and shameful subversion of an election, though nearly anything they do apart from that in the future is bound to be equally as illegal, cowardly, and shameful.


171 posted on 01/11/2021 11:07:09 AM PST by rlmorel ("I’d rather enjoy a risky freedom than a safe servitude." Robby Dinero, USMC Veteran, Gym Owner)
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To: poconopundit

I found it interesting that you referenced the feudal Japanese there...

I have been unable to read books for the last 5-7 years due to my eyes, and just got glasses that seemed to help, so...my first book I am re-reading is...

“Shogun”!

Heh, Japanese feudal politics...:)


172 posted on 01/11/2021 11:17:19 AM PST by rlmorel ("I’d rather enjoy a risky freedom than a safe servitude." Robby Dinero, USMC Veteran, Gym Owner)
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To: rlmorel
"We will fight back."

Absolutely, rimorel!

To the titled question of this thread of this thread ("Who will serve the GOP best in the future."), my answer is NO ONE! Both the GOP and the Democrat parties are wasted and beyond saving. They will, of course, both live on as the primary political science tools of the "elites" who are currently solidifying their power and control.

I'm suggesting the time is now for building a strong new "Liberty" party to recover from the "magnificent" success of the elites in overcoming the fundamental principles of our founding fathers.

173 posted on 01/11/2021 11:37:31 AM PST by Grandpa Drudge (Just an old man, desperate to preserve our great country for my great grandchildren.)
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To: Grandpa Drudge

I was completely disgusted by the GOP response to this fraud.

They don’t represent US.

They represent the Deep State, the status quo, and themselves.

That was a real shock to me. I thought more GOP members would stand up and be counted.

What happened was (besides the very few who DID stand up) they either hunkered down in cowardice and made themselves invisible, or openly sided with the illegal actions of the thieves.

I was shocked. I knew they wouldn’t all fight, what I was totally unprepared for was both the volume of those who wouldn’t fight, and those who openly sided with the Left.

That has left me completely dispirited and depressed, because that meant to me our country is far, FAR further lost than I had thought.

Doesn’t mean it can’t be somehow brought back, but...the work is harder.


174 posted on 01/11/2021 11:58:51 AM PST by rlmorel ("I’d rather enjoy a risky freedom than a safe servitude." Robby Dinero, USMC Veteran, Gym Owner)
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To: rlmorel
Right again! And it certainly will be very hard, but it is essential and we must stand up to the task.

I'm taking my inspiration from the eloquent warning from Dwight Eisenhower in 1961 that has now actually happened exactly as he predicted. (see my post 174, above)

The repeated theme in this thread seems to be focused on the need to "recover" (repair, fix, purge, or whatever) the Republican party. I strongly disagree. Both the Republican and Democrat parties are hopelessly corrupted by the elites (deep state) and have been working in concert for about 70 years to increase the power and control of the government over our liberties.

The idea of a new party to compete in the current political system has been (to now) almost universally rejected, using the effort (actually capturing 19% of all votes in 1992) by Ross Perot as an example.

Some have described Perot's policies as an early version of those espoused by Donald Trump. I note that those policies gained 19% of the vote in 1992, (Perot) and (about half or more, depending on how you count: over 70 million for Trump) in 2020.

Trump's popularity has NOT declined yet, in spite of the immense level of attacks by the left and the left leaning media.

It's high time right now to get to work on setting up this new party, with Trump as the nominal leader, in time to start the corrections required by the next election.

175 posted on 01/11/2021 1:54:07 PM PST by Grandpa Drudge (Just an old man, desperate to preserve our great country for my great grandchildren.)
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To: rlmorel

I get my Japanese feudal politics every year with the outstanding year-long Taiga Drama series on the NHK broadcast. They even have an English subtitles version they broadcast 2 months later.

We nothing in the U.S. quite like it, but we should.

Imagine a historical series with 50 famous actors and hundreds of extras. High production recreations of 16th century Japan with 42 minutes of programming every week for 50 years of the year — no commercial interruption.

Imagine a series where they catch a historical figure either in childhood or early adult life and go through the whole person’s life till his or her death.

This is the what the Taiga Drama series is all about. Probably 80% of the annual dramas are of the samurai period, but regardless there are always acts of heroism and human struggle throughout.

The copyrights are strong. From year to year, NHK pulls almost all the episodes off YouTube. But you can see the opening 3 minutes of this year’s series on General Mitshide Akechi, who was famous for killing the first unifier of Japan, Oda Nobunaga (his boss) in a surprise attack.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UckZsPuG-ZY

These dramas certainly play up the characters of history, but they try to stay true to history (at least the fable agreed upon).


176 posted on 01/11/2021 4:28:13 PM PST by poconopundit (Hard oak fist in an Irish velvet glove: Kayleigh the Shillelagh we salute your work!)
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To: rlmorel; Liz; V K Lee

Wonderful commentary there, rlmorel.

I’m sure my Dad experienced these feelings of despair in battle. He was a Navy gunner’s mate on an LST at Normandy and Okinawa. He used to tell us, “If you we’re scared, you weren’t there.”

Picking yourself up and fighting is part of life. This is why the dependency on government is so crippling to society. We are raising a nation of snowflakes. And the repressive Covid 19 reaction is hurting the risk takers, the people on main street, the small business people.

Like President Trump says, “Never, never give up.”

The glory of life is achievement — overcoming the odds to strike a life for yourself and your family. We love the pleasures of life, but I think true happiness comes from achievement.


177 posted on 01/11/2021 4:38:55 PM PST by poconopundit (Hard oak fist in an Irish velvet glove: Kayleigh the Shillelagh we salute your work!)
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To: Grandpa Drudge

It is a difficult time for me. Even though I am and have always been a Republican, I have in the last 30 years, more strongly identified as a Conservative rather than a Republican.

The Republic Party was a vessel, a base. It was my only avenue for political expression outside FR (other than some Tea Party aspects I took part in)

But after this? I don’t know how I can vote Republican. I might be able to vote for someone like Nunes, Cruz, or a few others, but that is it. After the shameful cowardice and craven political posturing, it is too clear they are either in on it directly, or perfectly fine with it.

This means I have no political footing right now, and the electoral process is a sham.

If a new party forms, and the likes of Nunes and Cruz join that, I’ll be there.

I’ll be there. If I can bring myself to vote.


178 posted on 01/11/2021 8:35:50 PM PST by rlmorel ("I’d rather enjoy a risky freedom than a safe servitude." Robby Dinero, USMC Veteran, Gym Owner)
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To: poconopundit

Good post, FRiend. I am downcast right now, but trying to get up.


179 posted on 01/11/2021 8:36:48 PM PST by rlmorel ("I’d rather enjoy a risky freedom than a safe servitude." Robby Dinero, USMC Veteran, Gym Owner)
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