Posted on 01/07/2021 8:07:24 AM PST by rustyweiss74
Jim Acosta: Yeah, Chris. And I think there is a lot to analyze about all of this. I’ll try to walk-through it as best as I can. But I’m hearing from a well-placed Republican source there have been preliminary conversations going on inside the cabinet among some cabinet members about invoking the 25th amendment of the Constitution to force the removal of President Trump from office. Now, that is a dramatic step. It’s never been taken before, and it’s something that hasn’t really been contemplated until really today with the events that we saw unfolding up on Capitol Hill. I am told that this talk of using the 25th amendment to force President Trump from office has reached Capitol Hill. There are some Republican senators who have been briefed on this who understand that these discussions are taking place and so word is spreading that this may end up happening. Now, the process is complicated, Chris. The vice president and a majority of the cabinet would have to determine that the president is unable to carry out the duties of his office. The president could contest that and then it would go to the Congress and you would need, I think, a two-thirds vote in each house in the house and the Senate for the president to be removed from office.
Where does this fluke broadcast from?
Jim Acosta is a solidly reliable source. Not.
Did you get bored reading halfway through the 25th amendment?
A simple reading of the language of the 25th Amendment confirms that the President can be removed against his will.
The 25th Amendment CAN be used to remove a President against his will.
The person claiming this is not possible left out a big “unless” clause in the amendment.
“Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office.”
Please read Section 4 ... carefully.
Did you get bored halfway through reading Section 4? POST THE WHOLE THING.
Ok - we will take this slow for you.
Here is the full text of Section 4.
“Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.
Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.”
Now let’s break this down:
Step 1: The VP and Cabinet notifies Congress that the president is unfit. The VP immediately assumes the role of acting President.
Step 2: The President can respond to Congress. If he does so, he is restored to power UNLESS the VP and Cabinet tell Congress that he is unfit. They have 4 days to do this.
Step 3: Congress has 21 days to decide the matter by a 2/3 vote of both houses.
So pay attention to Step 2. In particular that big “UNLESS” that we talked about earlier. When you read the full sentence, it becomes clear.
The President resumes his duties UNLESS the VP and Cabinet tell Congress he is unfit.
Get it now?
Their ‘tent’ is clamoring for blood and to eliminate Trump from future political adventures....they would hang him in the Rotunda if they had their way...
Looks like acting President Pence can take over and run out the clock if he and the cabinet wishes to do so.
“He’s waited too damn long on that already.”
No he hasn’t. These criminals hadn’t stopped committing treasonous crimes right through yesterday.
“With each day delayed anything released seems less legitimate and more desperate or vindictive.”
No it doesn’t. You’re worried about POTUS looking ‘desperate or vindictive’? What do you think the cheating by the deep state and the maneuvering yesterday by these swamp maggots looked like?
I hope POTUS releases every piece of damning information he has on these people. Air all their little nasty dirty laundry and then arrest them. I guarantee if any of these maggots gets arrested it will be like the 4th of July to most of us.
If he can get enough of the cabinet to go along with him, he can do that.
Well, that's true. It's kind of an academic point, I'd say.
No, that is not my point.
But since you brought it up, we can talk about that.
You claim that would be an academic point. To say something is an “academic point”, implies that it is true in theory, but not practical in reality. Clearly that would be very practical point in the reality we are currently living in. So I would disagree with your statement about it being academic.
Here is the point I was making:
You said:
“The 25th Amendment cannot be used to remove a President against his will. It’s intended to address a situation where a President is out of contact or facing a health emergency that incapacitates him.”
That is simply not true. I don’t understand why you keep holding to that statement.
Not gonna happen, I have to believe a majority of his cabinet are SANE.
25th doesn’t even apply here, Schumer and the media doing what they do best, throwing gas on the fire. Without blame for incitement btw.
Well-placed Republican source = lefty liar claiming to be Republican.
I've been saying this for the last 3+ years since this ridiculous topic first came up in 2017.
I do stand corrected, though. Since we are now less than 21 days from a transition to a new president, the removal can, in fact, be "permanent."
What happened to “uniting” and “for the good of the country?”
The never really meant that, obviously.
Air Force One affirms that you are correct.
This “report” is oddly bereft of names.
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