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(A Personal Post) Looking to Ancient Rome for understanding of ourselves.
https://tujuhbelasan.com/ ^ | 20th December 2020 | Ozguy1945

Posted on 12/19/2020 11:27:05 PM PST by Ozguy1945

Human beings need safe homes and love.

The foundation for this was and always will be family.

Families flourish when society is free.

So in Vergil’s classic epic poem, The Aeneid, the Trojan hero Aeneas is loyal to his father and history, as he seeks a new home for his people. The goddess Juno holds old grudges against Aeneas and his people and makes life hard for them.

But the love of his mother Venus leads him to a safe harbour in Carthage for the Trojan people.

This story was part of the process of making the Roman people proud of the pursuit of justice and happiness.

It was a part of the formation of the modern western world and a complete contrast to the modern leftist destruction of faith in self and faith in society.


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1 posted on 12/19/2020 11:27:05 PM PST by Ozguy1945
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To: Ozguy1945

And Rome and Carthage lived happily ever after.


2 posted on 12/19/2020 11:33:42 PM PST by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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To: Ozguy1945

Totally agree mate.

Then in it’s dying moments all the rich and scribes fled to Constantinople.

And each time they destroy another culture they move to the next.

As we know, Socialism through totalitarianism has been the hallmark of the scribes and elites since the neanderthal leader UGG found someone to count his clubs.


3 posted on 12/19/2020 11:53:58 PM PST by Swiffer_Ralf (Orig. Eureka_Lead)
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To: Ozguy1945

Look to ancient Rome and the Aenid? What ancient Rome would that have been? The romantic Rome in the mind of this writer or the real Rome? And the Aenid was state propaganda in poetic form.

Here is how the French thinker Montesquieu described the Rome in his book Consideration of the Causes of the Greatness of the Romans and their Decline:

Page 121: (start) Augustus established order - that is durable servitude. For in the free state in which sovereignty has just been usurped, whatever can establish the unlimited authority of one man is called good order, and whatever can maintain the honesty liberty of the subjects is called commotion, dissension or bad government.

All the men with ambitious projects had labored to inject a kind of anarchy into the republic. Pompey, Crassus and Caesar succeeded marvelously at this. They established an impunity for all public crimes; they abolished whatever could stop the corruption of morals or make for effective public order. And as good legislators attempt to make their citizens better, so these labored to make them worse. They therefore introduced the practice of corrupting the people with money; and if someone was corrupted with intrigues, he also corrupted the judges. They disturbed elections with all kinds of violence; and if someone was brought to justice, he intimidated the judges as well. The very authority of the people was destroyed (end).

And the Romans rulers established what was called Damnatio Memoriae or cancelling all past memories. They erased the names of heroic leaders just as the BLM is erasing the names of Lincoln and Washington from public schools. They mutilated statues just as they are doing today. They forbade the use of the name of those they condemned (watch and they will be doing this with the Trump name). And they persecuted their followers. Holidays were eliminated. Today this is called the Cancel Culture. It is a page taken right out of the Roman playbook.


4 posted on 12/20/2020 2:36:46 AM PST by WLusvardi (Drudge Fudges)
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To: Swiffer_Ralf

The Aenid was written during the dismantling of the Roman republic after the civil war. The Aenid asked the people to forget their past and to follow the new divine rule of Augustus. The people should replace their old memories of the republic by repeating poetry of the new reign of Augustus. The Aenid was a panegyric or praise of Augustus, just as the book The Future by Al Gore was written to extol Gore. Virgil sought to never mix love and leadership.


5 posted on 12/20/2020 2:59:22 AM PST by WLusvardi (Drudge Fudges)
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To: WLusvardi

Agree we are in a collapsing empire.

People like Caesar, Pompey and Crassus followed in the steps of Sulla and Marius. The republic’s roots of destruction were laid centuries before.

The destruction of our Republic is willful and deliberate. It needs to be stopped but I fear we have lost all the levers of power to do so.


6 posted on 12/20/2020 3:01:30 AM PST by Adder ("Can you be more stupid?" is a question, not a challenge.)
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To: Larry Lucido

***And Rome and Carthage lived happily ever after.***

Aeneas and the Trojans slipped out of Carthage and headed for Rome. The Queen of Carthage, Dido, then killed herself.


7 posted on 12/20/2020 6:18:08 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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