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Black America Before LBJ: How the Welfare State Inadvertently Helped Ruin Black Communities
Ammo.com ^ | 12/18/2020 | Sam Jacobs

Posted on 12/18/2020 10:59:43 AM PST by ammodotcom

The dust has settled and the evidence is in: The 1960s Great Society and War on Poverty programs of President Lyndon Baines Johnson (LBJ) have been a colossal and giant failure. One might make the argument that social welfare programs are the moral path for a modern government. They cannot, however, make the argument that these are in any way effective at alleviating poverty.

In fact, there is evidence that such aggressive programs might make generational poverty worse. While the notion of a “culture of dependence” is a bit of a cliché in conservative circles, there is evidence that this is indeed the case – that, consciously or not, the welfare state creates a culture where people receive benefits rather than seeking gainful employment or business ownership.

This is not a moral or even a value judgment against the people engaged in such a culture. Again, the claim is not that people “choose to be on welfare,” but simply that social welfare programs incentivize poverty, which has an impact on communities that has nothing to do with individual intent.

We are now over 50 years into the development of the Great Society and the War on Poverty. It is time to take stock in these programs from an objective and evidence-based perspective. When one does that, it is not only clear that the programs have been a failure, but also that they have disproportionately impacted the black community in the United States. The current state of dysfunction in the black community (astronomically high crime rates, very low rates of home ownership and single motherhood as the norm) are not the natural state of the black community in the United States, but closely tied to the role that social welfare programs play.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: blogpimp; deliberately; lbj; notinadvertently; welfare
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To: Steve_Seattle

they increase evil thinking it will bring about more good

nope

and before anyone b1tches and says we have arguments that take things to their logical extremes to illustrate absurdity

illustrating absurdity in an argument/discussion is not the same as implementing policies that actually promote the absurdity occurring in real life


21 posted on 12/18/2020 11:20:04 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: ammodotcom

The White elites now are the same slaveholders they were before.


22 posted on 12/18/2020 11:22:10 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (White Privilege does NOT begin with Being White but when you ACT "WHITE"! So, -- ACT "WHITE"!)
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To: RckyRaCoCo

Sounded like Abrams in that clip.


23 posted on 12/18/2020 11:22:47 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: ammodotcom

The author needs a dictionary. “Inadvertently” does NOT mean “on purpose”.


24 posted on 12/18/2020 11:23:40 AM PST by MortMan (Shouldn't "palindrome" read the same forward and backward?)
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To: KarlInOhio

Sen Moynihan said that’s exactly what would happen. And he was a dim.


25 posted on 12/18/2020 11:24:19 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: ammodotcom
This is something that all conservatives used to, and might still, agree on.

Social conservatives believe that welfare encourages moral decline.

Libertarians believe that welfare is not one of the required duties of a minimal state.

Neoconservatives ran the numbers and made a scientific case for welfare having the opposite effect of that claimed.

Even National Defense conservatives were against welfare as it took funds away from the Military Industrial Complex, either that or put us in debt which is a bad position for a state to be in militarily.

So even though this is one issue where all conservatives and even most Republicans agree, nothing has been accomplished. In the irony department, we have the case where the only attempt to reform welfare happened during the Clinton administration.

The Republican Party is officially a complete failure. If they have been unable to eliminate, or at least keep in check, welfare programs that they all agree are doing more harm than good, then they need to apologize, close up shop, and wait for a true conservative party to take over.

America does not need a carbon copy of England's useless Tory Party.

26 posted on 12/18/2020 11:26:21 AM PST by who_would_fardels_bear (This is not my current tagline.)
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To: ammodotcom

Nothing about it was “inadvertent.”


27 posted on 12/18/2020 11:26:21 AM PST by HIDEK6 (F God bless Donald Trump. )
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To: ammodotcom
When growing up we lived at a housing project. Back then it was a steppingstone for families to save money and move on.

Some of my friends became doctors , vets , nurses, etc. One owns a local newspaper company.

It was a great place until Johnson. Even at a young age , I noticed the difference in some of our neighbors after Johnson's policies. Their apartments were actually smelly. The laundry that was hung out on lines was not clean..at all.

Johnson's policies harmed white and black people.

28 posted on 12/18/2020 11:26:30 AM PST by lysie
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To: ammodotcom

It was on purpose. Johnson was purported to say that he would have blacks voting democrat for the next 200 years.


29 posted on 12/18/2020 11:26:31 AM PST by Parmy
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To: rigelkentaurus

LBJ was the biggest slave owner of all time.


30 posted on 12/18/2020 11:26:42 AM PST by cnsmom
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To: Salamander
“inadvertently”

Right

31 posted on 12/18/2020 11:27:48 AM PST by Chuckster (Friends don't let friends eat farmed fish)
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To: ammodotcom

EVERY govt programs causes more problems than they solve. let the Invisible Hand take care of things..................


32 posted on 12/18/2020 11:29:47 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Chuckster

Started with FDR. LBJ just pedal-to-the-metalled it.


33 posted on 12/18/2020 11:29:54 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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To: KarlInOhio
There's a very good documentary on YouTube about the Pruitt Igoe projects and what a failure it was. Key point was that for a family to move in they had to be among the most desperate, i.e. not have a man in the household.

The rest was inevitable.

34 posted on 12/18/2020 11:30:03 AM PST by who_would_fardels_bear (This is not my current tagline.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET
Wilson's Income Tax funded FDR's fascism and LBJ's socialism.

The Dems are a "gift" that keeps on "giving".

35 posted on 12/18/2020 11:31:45 AM PST by who_would_fardels_bear (This is not my current tagline.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Who’s gonna pull the rug out from under these bribes?


When the money runs out.

Rome went down this path. Bread and Circus to keep the voters docile. It worked for awhile, but not even the Roman Empire could create enough wealth to sustain a welfare program forever. Eventually the money stream dried up and Rome fell.


36 posted on 12/18/2020 11:33:18 AM PST by CIB-173RDABN (I am not an expert in anything, and my opinion is just that, an opinion. I may be wrong.)
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To: Chuckster

It would appear that many of us had the same immediate thought.

:D


37 posted on 12/18/2020 11:34:26 AM PST by Salamander (There's Nothing For It But To Sit And Wait For The Hard Men To Get Me Out....)
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To: ammodotcom

Drop “inadvertently.” It was done with full awareness, so as to keep Blacks down and poor, so they would always vote democrat.


38 posted on 12/18/2020 11:34:30 AM PST by I want the USA back (I fear my government much much much much much much much much much much more than a virus from china.)
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To: Salamander

“inadvertently”

Uh Huh.


39 posted on 12/18/2020 11:39:25 AM PST by dljordan
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To: ammodotcom

I doubt it was inadvertent!


40 posted on 12/18/2020 11:45:06 AM PST by pgkdan (The Silent Majority STILL Stands With TRUMP! WWG1WGA)
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