Posted on 12/12/2020 7:39:15 AM PST by USA Conservative
Before and after election day Americans are once again scrolling through news feeds full of stories about foreign operations that seek to undermine their country’s electoral process. Some of the reports raise questions about whether the administration of U.S. President Donald Trump is politicizing these concerns—and the president himself has cast doubt on the integrity of the election. Americans are left wondering what to make of all the noise.
Sidney Powell did get this rumor up in the air last month when she held a press conference together with Trump’s legal team where she claimed that The Dominion Voting Systems, the Smartmatic technology software, and the software that goes in other computerized voting systems here as well, not just Dominion, were created in Venezuela at the direction of Hugo Chavez to make sure he never lost an election after one constitutional referendum came out the way he did not want it to come out.”
She also alleged a huge influence on our election that comes from communist money through Venezuela, Cuba, and likely China. Video below:
So far fact-checkers denied these rumors.
But Powell is not alone in these statements according to Attorney General William Barr China is the greatest national security threat facing the United States.
National security officials told lawmakers in March that the intelligence community has not concluded that Russia is backing any particular 2020 candidate but did warn about interference campaigns by multiple countries. The information appeared in an unclassified fact sheet from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
“The IC has not concluded that the Kremlin is directly aiding any candidate’s reelection … nor have we concluded that the Russians will definitely choose to try to do so in 2020,” the ODNI said. “This is not a Russia-only problem. China, Iran, other countries like North Korea and Cuba, and non-state actors all have the opportunity, means, and potential motive to interfere in the 2020 elections as a way to achieve their goals.”
Now why these allegations that were mentioned are important?
Yesterday U.S. Supreme Court rejected Texas lawsuit contesting 2020 election results in four battleground states Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin.
In a few brief sentences, the high court said it would not consider the case for procedural reasons, because Texas lacked standing to bring it.
Trump supporters were mentioning the famous Executive Order on Imposing Certain Sanctions in the Event of Foreign Interference in a United States Election from 2018 even before this rejection now many of them are claiming that he will use it.
Two years ago Jeff Sessions stated:
Attorney General Sessions today issued the following statement on the Election Security Executive Order: “The American people will not tolerate attempts to undermine the integrity of our electoral process—especially by foreign countries and other bad actors. President Trump is committed to taking definitive action to prevent anyone—foreign or domestic—from illegally interfering in our elections, and the Department of Justice is proud to support him in this mission. “Pursuant to the President’s executive order, the Department will work with our partners at the State Department, Treasury Department, and Department of Homeland Security, in order to identify enemies of our country who put our electoral integrity at risk. Executive Order on Imposing Certain Sanctions in the Event of Foreign Interference in a United States Election
You can read the full executive order on the following link
Will President Trump use this executive order is hard to tell but it seems many people believe he will.
Some of them went one step further and claimed that all of Big Tech will be quickly banning and censoring all support of the 2018 EO.
Elizabeth Goitein’s January 2019 article “The Alarming Scope of the President’s Emergency Powers” written for “The Atlantic” states that “From seizing control of the internet to declaring martial law, President Trump may legally do all kinds of extraordinary things.”
President Trump has clearly discussed and been briefed on a strategy to contest the election via Constitutional means, first through the courts and then through House, saying at a Sept. 26 rally in—where else—Pennsylvania: “And I don’t want to end up in the Supreme Court and I don’t want to go back to Congress either, even though we have an advantage if we go back to Congress — does everyone understand that? I think it’s 26 to 22 or something because it’s counted one vote per state, so we actually have an advantage. Oh, they’re going to be thrilled to hear that.”
So as Sidney Powell indicated, the Kraken has been released, at the time it had no sense but if her allegations are proven to be real then the situation could get serious!
That would be a first - as Repubs in the majority under Dem presidents have rarely show backbone. The last time was when Clinton was in the White House - and Speaker Gingrich who did, mostly, hold Clinton to the grindstone.
12 Noon, Jan 20, 2021 is where you need to focus. What decision will you make if/when the steal is complete. Once again, hanging your hopes 2 years down the road on an electoral system that has been proven to be corrupt and fraudulent is nothing short than madness.
Agree completely. I think this really hasn’t even begun to heat up yet. That’s why FBI, DOJ and all the other alphabets are crapping themselves, and trying to obstruct. Trump, per his right, has given all of this to the military to review. They are dotting “i”’s and crossing “t”’s. And it’s when they bring all of THAT out that all hell will break loose. Benn reading about a LOT of military positioning around the homeland. All those 200K sealed indictments might be the very people trying to make a run for it when this breaks. I’d expect to see a brief martial law as these bad actors are rounded up by the hundreds of thousands.
And Gingrich got kicked out for his pains.
This time I think there’s a little more GOP resolve, if only because the politi-critters see their own elections being jeopardized.
However, the big cheeses like Kemp are convinced that they are untouchable, because, after all, the Dems love them so much they would never do anything to hurt them. Right?
GOP resolve - in a small handful of GOP folks. Not enough to have any real voice or power.
I personally believe President Trump believed in his oath of office..
We will soon know whether they are just words.
Or have real meaning in regards to enemies, foreign and domestic.
And Trump may have to be reminding lots of people of their oaths..
At the very least we need to have a special counsel appointed to look into all this fraud and bring this to resolution. If not a large percentage of America will never trust the system again and that will have long term repercussions we can't imagine.
I know, I know it will probably just be another Shift show. The question is weather we can find one honest person in the DC swamp to do his duty. Sadly I doubt it but this needs to be done anyway.
“I personally believe President Trump believed in his oath of office.”
Duty - something he believes in, and expected from so many in the U.S. Government.
“...Trump basically warned the court that if they don’t take care of this he will and he won’t be so kind and gentle about it.”
I just listened to the speech again. I did not hear that comment. Where is that on the video timeline??
How about the process of the vote-— there are 126 plus some demonrats who will not accept the electors. So, no go.
That would be a bridge too far.
Once the Electoral College votes, anybody who has a problem with the result needs to be hunted down and killed like a terrorist traitor.
Because the court, like lots of normal people, sees that there simply is nothing any other state could do to disenfranchise the citizens of Texas.
California could select all Democrat electors, or assign them by lottery, or select them anyway they want, Texas or any other state has no say in it, none. Likewise Texas can select their electors by sending all Republicans or however they want, none of California’s business, any more than it’s any of my business what you have for dinner tonight or where you send your kids to school.
It’s a good precedent, too. Not a damn bit of any state’s business how any other state selects electors, period, end of subject, settled for all time.
Now to figure out how to turn it to our advantage, since 2022 and 2024 look good demographically.
Exactly right.
He seems to be trying to convince our political and legal system that he is willing to ego the distance expose the full depth of corruption, illegal vote rigging collusion of US politicians with foreign powers hostile to the United States to execute what is essentially an electoral coup
The first prong is to use constitutional remedies to reverse the obvious massive officially sanctioned illegal voting and outright election rigging using civil constitutional remedies. This attempt to get the political and judicial establishment to “do the right thing” and is the “easy way” and one that does the least damage to our country and our political leadership.
This is the live and let live approach. It does not seem to be working. The SCOTUS had a chance to cure the problem with the Texas case by declined. So Team Trump is escalating to the next level.
The next prong is to start fully disclosing just how badly our country has been sold out to foreign interests and that the collusion rises to the level of a RICO conspiracy. It will expose the amazing depth and breadth of the election illegalities - the ballot stuffing, the fraud component to the mailing in voting and the criminal component of the election rigging via the various Dominion type players. It will also expose just who is involved in the crime and our establishment is comprised by corruption and is working with players like Chinese Communist Party to actively undermine our country - ie treason. This is very serious stuff and the consequences to the bad guys involved are serious and the damage this will to our country is very significant. Eric Swalwell was the opening shot in this front.
The Swalwell case is very serious but it is just the tip of the iceberg and Swalwell is a young, low level bit player compared to the older and more corrupt and compromised players. If you think the affair Swalwell is shocking, it pales in comparison to the case of the old bulls in government. Think Hunter Biden not as a specail case but instead as an example of far more widespread problem and a look at essentially business as usual with a large segment of our elected and unelected government officials.
We are now entering into this phase where the criminal and civil election fraud is starting enter the legal system and the “crazy rumors and conspiracy theories” will be backed up with hard and solid evidence - much of which will come from various private party, military and other governmental intelligence sources.
As these disclosures and the underlying evidence starts to filter through, the SCOTUS and state legislatures will be under increasing pressure to act to forestall an constitutional and national security crisis
The third prong is the option of what to do when all the courts and legislative remedies have failed despite overwhelming evidence (assuming it's there) of a conspiracy of foreign and domestic players including the CCP to rig a presidential election and take permanent control of the government of the United States.
I think you’re right. I hope, if he doesn’t prevail, that he never concedes.
Safe Harbor was December 8.
I think it’s the nature of conservatives to be somewhat independent and hard to coordinate - Dems are a total hive-mind.
However, relatively few of our GOPers are particularly conservative, although the Dems have moved so far left now that even the RINOs come out looking better. But they’re easy to intimidate. What they really want more than anything is praise from the enemy. Then they feel they’re really “bipartisan” and the very models of the modern politician. That never involves the Dems getting “bipartisan,” though.
Trump can protest the election as fraudulent and stolen and refuse to leave. Its happened before and a new election was ordered.
He could. But what are his options if the electoral college has voted?
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