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Federal Agents Raid Polymer80, Target “Ghost Gun” Makers
The Gun Study ^ | 12/11/2020 | Travis Olander

Posted on 12/11/2020 9:23:08 AM PST by Black_Rifle_Gunsmith

Federal agents this morning raided Polymer80, one of the largest makers of firearm build kits, which are chided as ‘ghost guns’ by the left. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms seized records from the company’s headquarters near Carson City, Nevada on Thursday. The agency claims Polymer80 is illegally manufacturing and distributing firearms, failing to pay taxes, shipping guns across state lines, and not conducting background checks on buyers.

The probe centers on the company’s “Buy, Build, Shoot” kits, which include parts to fabricate a handgun at home without the need to buy anything from a gun dealer. The component at question is the company’s unfinished pistol frame included with the kits. It’s called an 80% lower by the industry and coined a “receiver blank” by the ATF. In a letter provided by the agency, Polymer80’s blanks were determined in 2017 to not meet the definition of a firearm. All other parts in the kits are not firearms under federal law. Yet the ATF now alleges the company is selling guns without a license.

This is just the latest sign the agency is now going after non-firearm retailers, specifically those who make and sell 80% lowers. With gun sales shattering records and Coronavirus crippling the economy, FFLs and online gun dealers have all but emptied their shelves. That’s made gun kits and firearms blanks popular alternatives for Americans who want to exercise their Second Amendment rights. And the practice of building a gun at home has always been legal. Written in the Gun Control Act of 1968 and confirmed by ATF on their own website, the law says it is perfectly fine to build a gun at home without a license.

The agency is ignoring these precedents at the command of the incoming Biden camp. The raid on Polymer80 signals litigation is already being sought by the government after a secret meeting was held last month between Biden’s advisers and ATF executives. In a leaked conference call, acting ATF Director Regina Lombardo, Deputy Director Marvin Richardson, and Acting Assistant Director of Enforcement Programs and Services Curtis Gilbert were told to prioritize action against 80% lowers, gun kits, and pistol braces.

Steam is building against gun rights elsewhere, too. Biden’s pick to lead Health and Human Services, California AG Xavier Becerra, joined forces with gun control groups in a lawsuit against the ATF months ago. The suit sought to compel the agency to redefine 80% lowers and gun blanks as actual firearms. Everytown for Gun Safety rode the bandwagon and demanded Thursday that Biden use executive action to impose gun restrictions in his first 100 days, to include a ban on receiver blanks. The anti-gun group is owned by Michael Bloomberg, who poured tens of millions of dollars from his personal fortune into Biden’s campaign. We covered some of the most draconian gun control measures Biden promised on the campaign trail:

That last declaration is worrying, and it’s apparent wheels are now in motion to take action against the entire firearm industry. AmmoLand has reported the ATF’s rogue law enforcement side has begun targeting pistol brace manufacturers. Q LLC, which makes the Honey Badger AR-15 Pistol, went public with a cease-and-desist letter sent by the ATF. In the letter the agency claimed the pistol’s stabilizing brace made the firearm a short-barreled rifle instead, which require special licensing and taxes paid for sale and ownership. Public pressure forced the agency to give Q LLC a 60-day reprieve. But Thursday’s raid on Polymer80 shows 2021 will be a heated battle for gun rights, one that reaches beyond gun dealers and into the general consumer market.


TOPICS: Government; Hobbies; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: banglist; guns; secondamendment

1 posted on 12/11/2020 9:23:08 AM PST by Black_Rifle_Gunsmith
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To: Black_Rifle_Gunsmith

well crap... I didn’t even know I needed one of those. now I am sad! well, saves me from losing it in “yet another boating accident”


2 posted on 12/11/2020 9:29:38 AM PST by j_guru
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To: Black_Rifle_Gunsmith

I read about the California case the other day and I think the same on this case. They claim these are “Easy to Assemble” kits with all the parts included. in a way they are right, but there is a whole lot more to Building one. I know, I built 3 AR’s and a 1911 45.

By the KIT, ANY KIT that comes with an 80% lower, give it to the Plaintiff lawyers or in this case the ATF Idiots, LOCK them in a room for the whole day and tell them if they DO NOT PRODUCE a Working Firearm by 5PM, they are all going to JAIL for Contempt for 90 days, Sanctioned $10,000 each and Criminal Referrals for Fraud Upon the Court are going out today.

THEY WILL FAIL TO PRODUCE ANYTHING


3 posted on 12/11/2020 9:32:38 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: Black_Rifle_Gunsmith
SCOTUS appears to be the last chance to save the Republic.

I guess we're about to find out if they have the balls to do what's right.

4 posted on 12/11/2020 9:32:50 AM PST by Eagles6
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To: Black_Rifle_Gunsmith

“California AG Xavier Becerra”

Bessemeculla wants to confiscate gringo guns so no one can oppose the Invasion.


5 posted on 12/11/2020 9:37:51 AM PST by Regulator (It's Fraud, Jim)
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To: eyeamok
Buy the KIT, ANY KIT that comes with an 80% lower, give it to the Plaintiff lawyers or in this case the ATF Idiots, LOCK them in a room for the whole day and tell them if they DO NOT PRODUCE a Working Firearm by 5PM, they are all going to JAIL for Contempt for 90 days, Sanctioned $10,000 each and Criminal Referrals for Fraud Upon the Court are going out today.

Alternate approach: By the KIT, ANY KIT that comes with an 80% lower, give it to the Plaintiff lawyers or in this case the ATF Idiots, LOCK them in a room and tell them that they will be released if they produce a Working Firearm. Every week you go and check on their progress and maybe throw some food in. Food optional.

6 posted on 12/11/2020 9:45:47 AM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: eyeamok
Do they get any tools? They'll need a screwdriver, drill, and a file. Given those three tools, I can produce a Polymer80 Glock 19 in a day.

Clamp the receiver blank in the red fixture guide, file the top rails using the guide, drill three holes for the action pins using the provided drill bits and the guide holes in the fixture, then assemble the firearm.

Under an hour, tops.

7 posted on 12/11/2020 9:50:13 AM PST by Yo-Yo (is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

That would be fine by me, I will say that the Polymer80 was the First kit I built and was by far the easiest, a lot easier to mill the plastic than the aluminum. Either way the chance of producing an operable firearm without Machining Skills, Mechanical Skills and Power tools are the same as OJ Confessing at the the Half Time Show of the Superbowl


8 posted on 12/11/2020 9:52:47 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: Yo-Yo
Polymer80 Glock instructions: https://media.mwstatic.com/productdocuments/installation/912/polymer80_compact_milling_instructions.pdf
9 posted on 12/11/2020 9:53:42 AM PST by Yo-Yo (is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Black_Rifle_Gunsmith

Almost anyone with half a brain can build a gun.


10 posted on 12/11/2020 9:57:24 AM PST by Leep (Save America. Lock down Joe Biden!)
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To: Yo-Yo

I have been thinking about the GST9 Kit, looks easier than the 1911 I did. I built the AR15 Polymer80 and the milling would be real hard to do by hand with no tools.

Either way my guess is 75% of the population could not build the kit and make it work


11 posted on 12/11/2020 9:58:14 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: Black_Rifle_Gunsmith

technically speaking, it’s a hunk of metal.


12 posted on 12/11/2020 10:10:59 AM PST by Jonny7797
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To: Black_Rifle_Gunsmith

With 3D printers becoming more common, this is a fool’s errand. You don’t even need machining skills - just a bit of software freely floating around on the internet.....


13 posted on 12/11/2020 10:21:56 AM PST by FLT-bird
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To: Black_Rifle_Gunsmith

Trump needs to immediately fire Regina Lombardo, Deputy Director Marvin Richardson, and Acting Assistant Director of Enforcement Programs and Services Curtis Gilbert!!!

F-Troop (they HATE that name!) has fone rogue again, and didn’t even wait for (maybe) Biden. I’m calling my congress critters now about his. Everyone should!!!

Raise. A. Stink!!!


14 posted on 12/11/2020 10:51:10 AM PST by Basket_of_Deplorables (This is all a Soros funded communist insurrection! )
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To: eyeamok
I agree with your recommendation. I've built many from serialized parts, purchased with a proper Form 4473. A couple Form 1 as well. I've never been attracted to the 80% offerings. It's just way too much work and requires better quality tools than I own. The tiniest flaw in alignment of the pins for the trigger/hammer will create a flawed lower. Even a ready to go stripped lower has a "nervous" factor fitting the trigger guard roll pin. I purchased a Wheeler device that supports and gently pushes the pin.
15 posted on 12/11/2020 11:10:31 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: Black_Rifle_Gunsmith

A friend stopped by today to show me his Henry Lever Action in 357 I believe because he has a Glock in that caliber


16 posted on 12/12/2020 8:01:30 PM PST by tubebender
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