Posted on 12/06/2020 7:00:51 PM PST by CheshireTheCat
A few weeks back I wrote an article about how high the risk of dying from covid is. I mentioned that a senior representative of the World Health Organization (WHO) had recently said that the WHO’s best estimate was that roughly one in 750 people who get infected die of the disease. I also mentioned a study published by the WHO, authored by professor John Ioannidis at Stanford University, which was based on antibody data. That study estimated that the mortality rate for covid was around 0,23% overall, which would mean that roughly one in 430 people who are infected overall die of the disease, and 0,05% for people under 70, which would mean that if you’re under 70, the risk of dying of covid is about one in 2,000.
Since then, professor Ioannidis has updated his figures. The newer numbers have been published in The European Journal of Clinical Investigation. The modifications have been made to compensate for the fact that the earlier estimates were extrapolated from the countries that were hardest hit by covid. When this is accounted for, the new estimate is that covid kills around 0,15-0,20% of those infected, so around one in 600 infected people die of the disease overall. Among people under 70 years of age, the revised estimate is that 0,03-0,04% die, which is around one in 3,000.
However, professor Ioannidis also mentions that the fatality rate varies a lot between countries, related to varying levels of risk factors. As I mentioned in a previous article, the main risk factor for dying of covid is obesity. So countries with high levels of obesity will be hit harder than countries with low levels....
(Excerpt) Read more at sebastianrushworth.com ...
to answer this question you would need to know the average hours of a life, then you would have to subtract the worldwide productivity hours lost to lockdowns and other BS per living person on this planet..
I am to lazy to do the calculations tonight, but I suspect I would not like the answer in any case..
BREAKING EXPLOSIVE BOMBSHELL NEWS FLASH! World wide death rate remains at 100%. We all going sooner or later.
For those who lost businesses, lovelihoods or hope it takes a lot of years off.
So people who do not "Feel Safe" should move to Ethiopia?
No, people who live in a country that has grocery stores where one entire side of an aisle is devoted to ice cream should not destroy the livelihoods of their fellow citizens, leaving them without health insurance.
People who do not feel safe should be challenged on how safe they are going to be when the economy collapses and what the possibility is of that compared to the possibility that they are going to die.
They should also be challenged to feel grateful that they do not have the safety concerns of the average person in Ethiopia, who probably has never felt 10% as “safe” as the average is in actuality, despite COVID.
Although, ironically, the average person in Ethiopia, while less safe from other causes of death, such as malaria, than the average American, is probably a lot safer from COVID because he or she can get HCQ.
When the economy (read; people’s livelihoods) is completely crushed what will the overall death rate of the general population be?
At least 5x the covid death rate?
Somebody posted a chart of US deaths for the last five years. 2020 at 9/30 projected through year end did not look out of line with the prior years. There was definitely no spike,
I was looking at death figures last night. I didn’t have time to do the calculations, but as a very rough estimate, I think total deaths this year have been about 10-15% higher than in recent years. So worse than a bad flu year but not that much worse.
https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid
I hate to say it but that’s probably a conservative estimate.
It all depends on how much economic pain is coming.
The totals this had in 000’s for 2015-2020 were 2,713, What the chart I had showed 2,744, 2,814, 2,839, 2,855, and 2,168 through 9 months 2,819 projected. The first 4 were from cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db267, 293, 328-h, and 355-h. 2019 and 2019 was from nvss/vsrr/ directories instead of data/databriefs/.
Your link was excess mortality which has a lot of additional calculations and assumptions. I prefer not relying on someone else’s assumptions and just look at raw deaths. Just looking at raw deaths above doesn’t appear to show a greater than expected increase like 20%.
Boko haram are in Nigeria, not Ethiopia. That’s the same distance as new York to los Angeles. And culturally and linguistically as different as Japan and Italy
If people can be made to act this insanely stupid for a hoax...
Imagine if something real were to happen?
Covid/Y2k
I thought the figures I used were raw data.
I don’t think any figures are accurate. But it doesn’t matter for my very limited purpose - I only need ballpark figures:
Is this disease serious enough to take precautionary measures? Yes.
Is it serious enough to justify draconian measures? No.

The neighbouring areas of Cha, Cameroon and Niger are also affected.
The distance between the two countries is 5,132 km which is actually more than the 4,489 km distance between NY and LA
And that one person in 750 would have most likely died anyway within a few months, of some other cause (ordinary influenza, heart failure, etc.).
Regards,
Here’s a quote from an article that would seem to have relevance to your question…..It was posted here last week....
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She found that there was zero increase in deaths across the United States between 2018 and 2020. She determined that “the percentages of deaths among all age groups remain relatively the same.” She thus concluded that COVID-19 “has relatively no effect on deaths in the United States.”
Briand was puzzled because the CDC had reported an increase in deaths due to solely to COVID-19. Thus, there should have been an increase in total deaths reported to the CDC by approximately 267,000. But there was no such increase.
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