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TX Rep. Terry Meza Files Bill Making it Illegal to Defend Your Home with a Firearm
lsgr.live ^ | Nov. 17, 2020 | Lone Star Gun Rights

Posted on 11/30/2020 10:08:59 AM PST by PROCON

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To: Oshkalaboomboom

“Are you sure about that? I did a search and every answer I found stated you can use force up to and including deadly force to protect your home, and you don’t have to wait to be attacked.”

Read it on the Internet, huh?


61 posted on 11/30/2020 10:40:46 AM PST by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: Ancient Man
No worries. It won’t get out of committee, assuming it ever gets heard in the first place.

The carpet-bagging Blue State Lt. Governor, Dan Patrick determines the legislative agenda. He's on record as vowing to fight the NRA on universal background checks.

62 posted on 11/30/2020 10:41:28 AM PST by Spirochete
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To: PROCON

***She believes that homeowners are too eager to pull the trigger when facing armed home invaders.***

Rest assured that if someone is breaking into your home they are not coming in to shake your hand.


63 posted on 11/30/2020 10:41:38 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: PROCON

Can home invaders be held at gunpoint while they’re stabbed or beaten to death? Asking for a friend.


64 posted on 11/30/2020 10:41:52 AM PST by gundog ( Hail to the Chief, bitches!)
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To: hsmomx3

Nope. She’s from Irving (near Dallas). Though there are far too many people here in Austin that take similar views.


65 posted on 11/30/2020 10:43:18 AM PST by ReelectTrump2020
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To: Carl Vehse

Another wise Latina.


66 posted on 11/30/2020 10:43:20 AM PST by gundog ( Hail to the Chief, bitches!)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

Exactly.
Propose an amendment to the legislation that “safeharbors” a victim that shoots the criminal and never reports it.


67 posted on 11/30/2020 10:46:37 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (If there be WAR in the offing, let it begin HERE. With ME.)
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To: PROCON
"I'm not condoning stealing, it is against the law," Meza says, "but it's not an offense that is punishable by death."

Actually, in Texas after dark, it is...

Here's a tip...don't steal.

68 posted on 11/30/2020 10:47:55 AM PST by Envisioning (Carry safe, always carry, everyday, everywhere.)
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To: PROCON

American King James Version
If a thief be found breaking up, and be smitten that he die, there shall no blood be shed for him.
-Exodus 22:2

Douay-Rheims Bible
If a thief be found breaking open a house or undermining it, and be wounded so as to die: he that slew him shall not be guilty of blood.


69 posted on 11/30/2020 10:48:06 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Osage Orange

No one can be sure, in this instance, unless the plumbing is checked!


70 posted on 11/30/2020 10:51:16 AM PST by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: Carl Vehse

Who knew Helen Thomas had a twin?


71 posted on 11/30/2020 10:52:18 AM PST by Gil4 (And the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, ax and saw)
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To: sevinufnine
sevinufnine @47: "that’s a woman?!"

I only said "Demonicrat." Any biological speculation is left as an exercise for the reader.

72 posted on 11/30/2020 10:52:49 AM PST by Carl Vehse
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To: PROCON
TX Rep. Terry Meza Files Bill Making it Illegal to Defend Your Home with a Firearm

Pandering to her (felonious) constituency and/or going after the prized "armed intruder" vote.

Smart move!

Regards,

73 posted on 11/30/2020 10:53:00 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Carl Vehse

I’m considering a public notice and signage for my yard:

Unapproved firearms are not allowed.
Persons entering this property with unapproved firearms will be treated as a threat.
NO EXCEPTIONS
Please contact homeowner at PHO-NEN-UMBR for approvals.
Please call MY-LAWYER if you have a warrant.

I’ll politely ask the police to return and leave their guns in the car.
While I hold my shotgun in my front door.
America...F*ck Yeah!


74 posted on 11/30/2020 10:54:50 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (If there be WAR in the offing, let it begin HERE. With ME.)
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To: sevinufnine
But what if they’re stealing your kid? (ugh)

Well, then you are allowed to do something - but only if you can demonstrate actual "intent to harm" on the part of the kidnappers.

Regards,

75 posted on 11/30/2020 10:55:57 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Spirochete

He doesn’t determine the agenda in the House. It’ll never get out of committee.


76 posted on 11/30/2020 11:01:22 AM PST by Ancient Man
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To: PROCON

This is certainly a bad bill, but the article is not entirely accurate. The bill would not repeal the Castle Doctrine per se—you would still have no duty to retreat from your own home before using deadly force.

It would, however, repeal the “stand your ground” portion of the law by re-imposing a duty to retreat anywhere else.

It would also weaken the Castle Doctrine by repealing the evidentiary provisions of Tex. Penal Code 9.32(b) and (d), which basically provide that (b) the use of deadly force is presumed reasonable when used against someone unlawfully and with force entering the home, vehicle, or place of business, and (d) prohibiting the jury from considering whether the defendant attempted to retreat when determining whether the defendant reasonably believed deadly force was necessary.

This bill is bad enough. There is no need to weaken our arguments against it by misrepresenting it.

The good news is that gun control and anti-self defense bills like this are filed every session, and never see the light of day. This bill will die in committee like every one before it.


77 posted on 11/30/2020 11:05:22 AM PST by The Pack Knight
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To: SgtHooper

You go check first....


78 posted on 11/30/2020 11:08:43 AM PST by Osage Orange (TRUMP!!!)
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To: PROCON
In any rational world (yes, I know it is Texas and he is a Democrat), this will be ruled unconstitutional before the ink drys on the paper.

Just wait until some large police forces get defunded and see what people really think about not defending their homes with a firearm.

79 posted on 11/30/2020 11:10:25 AM PST by Robert357
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To: PROCON
"I'm not condoning stealing, it is against the law," Meza says...

Wink, wink...

80 posted on 11/30/2020 11:12:26 AM PST by COBOL2Java (Joe Biden: Barack Obama minus the pretty talk.)
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