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How Socialism Really Works
Gen Z Conservative ^ | 11/16/2020 | Gen Z

Posted on 11/17/2020 10:44:52 AM PST by WTanner1776

Americans, especially young, left-leaning Americans don’t have much of a conception of the reality of socialism. They have some idea that it means the government taxing the wealthy and providing “free” (read: taxpayer-funded) services to those that are left fortunate.

That is completely wrong. In fact, it’s a semi-rosy view of how the Nordic welfare systems work, and those aren’t even socialist systems in the first place. Plus, they tax everyone quite heavily, not just the upper class; the average tax in Norway, Sweden, and Denmark is between 40% and 60%, but it is a more or less flat tax. In other words, everyone pays those relatively high taxes, not just the most productive members of society. That stands in contrast to the US, where about half of the population effectively avoids paying a federal income tax.

But, in any case, the Nordic countries are not socialist states. They are free-market states with high tax rates and large welfare systems. That’s not socialism, but the portrayal of it as socialism has skewed our understanding of how a socialist system works. Because Bernie Sanders and others have framed the Nordic model as “socialism,” young Americans think that socialism means lots of welfare, but a relatively high amount of economic freedom...

Any student of history who has seen examples of real socialism knows that the millennial view of how socialism works is completely untrue. Read The Gulag Archipelago, The Case Against Socialism, or Socialism Sucks to see what socialism really is. It’s not some utopia where a mythical, Robin Hood-like government taxes from the productive and gives to the poor. In reality, socialism is a system where the state owns everything.

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To: Hambone 1934

Yes, Bernie, like all socialists, is in the time warp. His socialist Sweden is the Sweden of 1970ies. Swedes finally got enough of it, voted the socialists out and restructured the economy. Still Sweden is economically behind US, as it is Denmark.
Luckily, there was enough democracy left over there to be able to vote the socialists out!
Frankly, I think Bernie really wants us to be like his honeymoon country, but he is smart enough not to tell anybody.


21 posted on 11/17/2020 12:56:29 PM PST by AZJeep (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0AHQkryIIs)
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To: WTanner1776

Socialism works...for the socialist politician.

Rules of Socialism:

The primary beneficiaries of socialist policies is the socialist politician.

Secondary is the bureaucracies that support these policies.

Tertiary is the so-called beneficiaries.

All socialist politicians are consummate liars. They have to be. (if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.)


22 posted on 11/17/2020 1:10:38 PM PST by VRW Conspirator (NuRulz)
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To: Seruzawa

“The people who push [socialism] are of vicious intent. They seek mass misery and death purposefully with malice aforethought.”

MONEY QUOTE OF THE DAY!!


23 posted on 11/17/2020 1:20:08 PM PST by elcid1970 ("Pres. Trump doesn't wear glasses. That's because he's got 2020.")
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To: WTanner1776

I ‘m not reading this carp.
Socialism is just Communism elected into power by fraudulent means and it needs to be put down today.
Typing on my ipad won’t fix carp either.


24 posted on 11/17/2020 1:22:12 PM PST by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our only true hope.)
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To: WTanner1776

Socialists murder same as communists except they deny healthcare and a good living which grinds down the peasants.


27 posted on 11/17/2020 4:00:30 PM PST by minnesota_bound (homeless guy. He just has more money....He the master will plant more cotton for the democrat party )
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To: WTanner1776

Socialism is cynicism directed towards society and - correspondingly - naiveté towards government. (my tag).

Per Thomas Paine,Common Sense (1776),
SOME writers have so confounded society with government, as to leave little or no distinction between them; whereas they are not only different, but have different origins.
Society is produced by our wants, and government by our wickedness;

the former promotes our happiness POSITIVELY by uniting our affections, the latter NEGATIVELY by restraining our vices.

The one encourages intercourse, the other creates distinctions.

The first is a patron, the last a punisher.

Society in every state is a blessing, but Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one . . .
Thus “society” and government” are in a real sense opposites. And cynicism is not “extreme skepticism,” it is naiveté towards the opposite of whatever one is cynical about.

Hence cynicism towards society directly corresponds to naiveté about government. Naiveté, that is, towards an evil . . .


28 posted on 11/17/2020 4:33:21 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Socialism is cynicism directed towards society and - correspondingly - naivete towards government.)
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To: IncPen; Arimnestos

As Mark Steyn says, “You can vote your way into Socialism, but you have to shoot your way out...”

Ding, ding, ding - we have a thread winnah!

29 posted on 11/17/2020 8:52:08 PM PST by GOPJ (THE DEAD vote IS proof positive of voter fraud. It's 'voting the people who don't show up to vote)
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To: Arimnestos

I spent the 1st 20 years of my life in the USSR. My 1st visit to a supermarket was in Vienna, but it elicited much the same response - tears in my eyes.

Glad you're here...

30 posted on 11/17/2020 8:53:39 PM PST by GOPJ (THE DEAD vote IS proof positive of voter fraud. It's 'voting the people who don't show up to vote)
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To: Leaning Right
Commies always bring food shortages and suffering. Why people - anyone - buys commie lies should be studied in Universities.

Over a hundred years of communism experiments without one success... and people keep falling for it. Might be a desire to return to childhood with loving parents...

31 posted on 11/18/2020 7:07:17 AM PST by GOPJ (THE DEAD vote IS proof positive of voter fraud. It's 'voting the people who don't show up to vote)
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To: AZJeep

A friend of mine left Holland because they have a wealth tax to fund all those socialistic programs. His dad ended up having to sell off all of his assets and his house to be able to pay that tax. He died broke and in debt to the government.


32 posted on 11/18/2020 7:12:55 AM PST by Texas resident (Biden and Kamala are China's bitches)
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To: WTanner1776

Difference between Socialism and Communism:
https://www.thoughtco.com/difference-between-communism-and-socialism-195448

What Would a Democratic Socialist America Look Like?:
https://townhall.com/columnists/danieldimartino/2020/01/06/what-would-a-democratic-socialist-america-would-look-like-i-can-tell-youim-venezuelan-n2559014

Joe Biden Has Deep Ties to the Radical ‘Great Reset’ Movement and Its Globalist Leaders:
https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed/joe-biden-ties-great-reset

What is the Difference between Socialism and Democratic Socialism?:
https://genzconservative.com/the-difference-between-socialism-and-democratic-socialism/

What Americans Must Know About Socialism:
https://www.heritage.org/progressivism/commentary/what-americans-must-know-about-socialism


33 posted on 11/18/2020 1:31:22 PM PST by Mozilla (Election disaster)
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To: Mozilla

Forms of government:
https://thebestschools.org/magazine/common-forms-of-government-study-starters/

Democrats want to impose Socialism and worse on America:
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jul/8/democrats-want-to-impose-socialism-and-worse-on-am/

Democrats Committed to a Socialist Platform:
https://www.newsmax.com/conradblack/covid-electoral-portland/2020/08/11/id/981679/

Donald Trump’s List of 42 Disastrous Things Joe Biden Would Do as President:
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/07/15/donald-trumps-list-of-42-disastrous-things-joe-biden-would-do-as-president/

10 Super Terrifying Things Joe Biden Will Do To You If Elected:
https://listofx.com/2020/08/26/10-super-terrifying-things-joe-biden-will-do-to-you-if-elected/

Biden: I Will Shut Down Nation In January If Scientists Tell Me Tohttps://thefederalist.com/2020/08/22/biden-i-will-shut-down-nation-in-january-if-scientists-tell-me-to/

Biden Lockdown Plan Revealed:
https://thenewamerican.com/biden-lockdown-plan-revealed/

Joe Biden Is Absolutely the Vehicle for the Communist Takeover:
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/stacey-lennox/2020/08/05/joe-biden-is-absolutely-the-vehicle-for-the-communist-takeover-of-the-democrat-party-n755349

Mark Levin: Joe Biden’s ‘Communist Manifesto’ Will Destroy Every Aspect of Our Culture and Society:
https://www.breitbart.com/radio/2020/10/16/mark-levin-joe-bidens-communist-manifesto-will-destroy-every-aspect-of-our-culture-and-society/


34 posted on 11/18/2020 1:52:04 PM PST by Mozilla (Election disaster)
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To: Mozilla

What is Cultural Marxism:
https://mises.org/wire/what-cultural-marxism

Who was Karl Marx:
https://www.biography.com/scholar/karl-marx

Who was Antonio Gramsci:
https://www.thoughtco.com/antonio-gramsci-3026471

The Frankfurt School and Cultural Marxism:
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/01/the_frankfurt_school_and_cultural_marxism.html

America in the Grip of Cultural Marxism:
https://antonymueller.medium.com/america-in-the-grip-of-cultural-marxism-f7de21b0f660

Cultural Marxism attack on Western Society:
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/aug/22/cultural-marxist-attack-western-society/

Herbert Marcuse of the Frankfort School:
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/marcuse/


35 posted on 11/18/2020 2:04:23 PM PST by Mozilla (Election disaster)
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To: Mozilla

From Alinsky to AOC- Will Communism win?:
https://amgreatness.com/2020/07/29/from-alinsky-to-aoc-will-communism-finally-win-in-america/

Saul Alinsky: The Man Who Would Organize Hell:
https://www.raptureready.com/2019/09/08/saul-alinsky-man-organize-hell-geri-ungurean/

The Intersections Of Anarchism And Community Organizing:
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/dave-the-intersections-of-anarchism-and-community-organizing

George Soros, 89, is still on a quest to destroy America:
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jan/25/george-soros-89-still-quest-destroy-america/

George Soros -Rich man Hated around The world:
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/george-soros-the-rich-man-who-is-hated-around-the-world

George Soros is indeed an enabler of U.S. street violence:
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/sep/19/george-soros-enabler-us-street-violence-antifa-/


36 posted on 11/18/2020 2:16:16 PM PST by Mozilla (Election disaster)
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