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Fox News Not Only Messed Up on Arizona, They Also Made This Huge Screw Up Election Night
Red State.com ^ | November 11, 2020 | Nick Arama

Posted on 11/11/2020 5:54:15 PM PST by Kaslin

Fox has come under the gun for how they’ve dealt with the election including calling Arizona early for Joe Biden early on Election Day when indeed the count is still ongoing and the state may yet flip to President Donald Trump. Whatever they were thinking, they were obviously wrong to call it early, even if Trump ultimately were to lose the state.

That wasn’t all they did, as we reported. They had Sandra Smith caught on a hot mic absolutely mocking a guest, acting as though it wasn’t reasonable to question any of the results of the election or the network’s call for Biden. Media including Fox seems not to understand that they only make projections, we don’t actually determine the election based on what they say.

But there was more. Not only did they call Arizona early, they called the House results early and exceedingly wrong, claiming that the Democrats held the House but that they were anticipated to pick up five seats.

BREAKING: THE Fox News Decision Desk can now project that Democrats will retain control of the House of Representatives and expand their majority by at least five seats.

— Lauren Blanchard (@LaurenBlanch12) November 4, 2020

.@BretBaier, Is this deleted tweet authentic? If so, did you explain why it was deleted? Has there been any explanation from Fox News of this botched call by the decision desk? pic.twitter.com/KDHsSN51dk

— Eddie Zipperer (@EddieZipperer) November 11, 2020

Bret Baier even stealth deleted the tweet despite the fact that Fox hasn’t taken back the call.

The @BretBaier tweet is authentic. It’s visible in Google’s cache.

H/t @seanmdav of @FDRLST pic.twitter.com/FLjdZADzay

— Eddie Zipperer (@EddieZipperer) November 11, 2020

Here’s the video of Fox News making this call on election night. It was the first call of the night:pic.twitter.com/MLp6q8Ql5c

That of course was just monumentally wrong. Based on what? In fact, the Republicans gained at least 6, with likely more still to come. Seven races are still outstanding according to Cook Political Report.

It's been a terrible day for Dems in uncalled House races: #CA21: Valadao (R) still ahead by 4,026 votes#CA25: Garcia (R) retakes lead by 159 votes#CA39: Kim (R) lead up to 4,160 votes#IA02: Miller-Meeks (R) now ahead by 40 votes#UT04: Owens (R) lead up to 1,780 votes

— Dave Wasserman (@Redistrict) November 11, 2020

So what’s Fox’s explanation for calling this so early and so wrong? What’s their explanation for Arizona and even sticking by it now still, even after others, even other liberal networks retracted their early calls? They still haven’t retracted or explained their House call while the polls were still open on the West Coast. Where’s their “we’re sorry, we messed up” segment?

Judge Jeanine was also suspended after reportedly wanting to support Trump and do something on the voter fraud. That didn’t go over well.

Neil Cavuto also cut away from Kayleigh McEnany when she was raising questions of fraud in the election because he said the claims were unsubstantiated.

Tucker Carlson then seemed to be calling out Cavuto for doing such a thing on his show.

TUCKER takes aim at Neil Cavuto for cutting away from the Trump campaign's press conference today:

"You can't just cut away from coverage you don't like. Force doesn't work in a democracy. That's a dictatorship. Telling voters to shut up is never enough." pic.twitter.com/uxFbxdIJFR

— August Takala (@AugustTakala) November 10, 2020

Now, Fox is hemorrhaging viewers. If they don’t understand why, they may want to take a look at their actions.



TOPICS: Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: 2020electionnight; arizona; bretbayer; defundfox; deletefox; fox; foxnews; house
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1 posted on 11/11/2020 5:54:15 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

“ But there was more. Not only did they call Arizona early, they called the House results early and exceedingly wrong, claiming that the Democrats held the House but that they were anticipated to pick up five seats.”

They did that before the polls were closed. Before the AZ debacle.

I about flipped my lid when they did that and posted about it on the live thread election night.


2 posted on 11/11/2020 5:58:14 PM PST by HollyB
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To: Kaslin

It almost makes it look like Fox News knew the illegal activities were going to be massive enough that Trump would have no recourse or knowledge he had really won...

We don’t check votes that are left uncontested.

Folks, stop paying for cable or Dish.


3 posted on 11/11/2020 5:59:14 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: HollyB

They called AZ but refused to call FL for the longest time evene though it was obvious. That is when I knew I was done with Foxnews forever.


4 posted on 11/11/2020 5:59:47 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (You can vote your way into socialism, but you have to shoot your way out.)
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To: Kaslin
Now, Fox is hemorrhaging viewers. If they don’t understand why, they may want to take a look at their actions.

They certainly lost me. Now, I won't even watch Tuckie or the cute little Ingraham girl.

5 posted on 11/11/2020 5:59:52 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: ConservativeMind

We pulled the plug on cable this weekend.....because of Foxnews election coverage.

I refuse to fund the enemy any more. Not watching is not enough....they are still getting money from you.


6 posted on 11/11/2020 6:01:07 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (You can vote your way into socialism, but you have to shoot your way out.)
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To: Kaslin

In fact I wrote them a nasty letter on Election night about it They can not deny it.


7 posted on 11/11/2020 6:01:23 PM PST by HollyB
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To: Kaslin

Watching NewsMax...


8 posted on 11/11/2020 6:02:04 PM PST by Deplorable American1776 (We might be DEPLORABLES, but won't cheat like Dems)
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To: Kaslin

We are hitting Fox where it hurts. The bottoming (revenue). Yes....


9 posted on 11/11/2020 6:02:34 PM PST by LoveMyFreedom
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To: Red in Blue PA

Thank you for doing that.

There are other, more legitimate sources for news, from the Internet.

These “gate keepers” have gone too far.


10 posted on 11/11/2020 6:03:37 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: Kaslin
Fox it is real simple why you lost 50% of your audacity.

PR does not work with conservatives. Truth works. Let’s face it. Fox is run by intellectually dishonest rabid dummycrats. Intellectually dishonest reporting is one thing I will absolutely not tolerate.

Calling Arizona for Biden with 1% of the vote in is on its face dishonest. Refusing to call Florida with 95% of the vote in is malpractice. I might be stupid but I ain’t dumb (as in dummycrat).

11 posted on 11/11/2020 6:04:22 PM PST by Chgogal (#StopBidenÂ’sBananaRepublic)
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To: Chgogal
Audacity = audience
12 posted on 11/11/2020 6:04:56 PM PST by Chgogal (#StopBidenÂ’sBananaRepublic)
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To: Kaslin

They hired a PR firm to help them dig out. What are they going to do, place ads on Newsmax and OAN? That’s where they will find all those former FOX viewers.


13 posted on 11/11/2020 6:05:02 PM PST by McGavin999 (Justice delayed is justice denied.)
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To: Kaslin

Unfortunately, Seth Rich is still dead.


14 posted on 11/11/2020 6:19:02 PM PST by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: McGavin999
What are they going to do, place ads on Newsmax and OAN?

**snort** :D
15 posted on 11/11/2020 6:22:21 PM PST by georgiegirl (Count me Deplorable)
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To: Kaslin

They didn’t “mess up”. They did as planned. All part of a psyop scheme coordinated with the network snit tech and the Dem party.

Any Freeper who watches anything on fox is a sucker


16 posted on 11/11/2020 6:24:03 PM PST by rintintin (If you watch Tucker, you help fund Chris Wallace. No more Fox - period.)
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To: HollyB
“ But there was more. Not only did they call Arizona early, they called the House results early and exceedingly wrong, claiming that the Democrats held the House but that they were anticipated to pick up five seats.” They did that before the polls were closed. Before the AZ debacle. I about flipped my lid when they did that and posted about it on the live thread election night.

Partner, Brett Baier is a "Giant Sixth Grade Brain Journalist" and Brett is the main reason that Fox News is going down the tube.

OAN is the place you ought to be since it is a whole lot better than Fox News.

17 posted on 11/11/2020 6:26:19 PM PST by TheConservativeTejano (The Business of America is Business...)
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To: Kaslin

Fox is not familiar with the term ‘integrity’ apparently. “Fox and Friends’? Hardly


18 posted on 11/11/2020 6:26:42 PM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: rintintin

wherever you look, there are links to Associated Press!

21 Oct: Forbes: Why Fox News May Have The Edge In Calling The 2020 Presidential Race
by Mark Joyella, Senior Contributor
But in 2017, Fox News decided to break from the exit polling consortium, convinced there was a better way to determine what’s motivating voters in the days leading up to Election Day. The result, in partnership with the ***Associated Press, is the Fox News Voter Analysis, which uses one methodology for all voters—early voters, voters who vote by mail, and Election Day voters. The system, which was tested in state races in 2017 and 2018, involves interviews with nearly 100,000 voters in the final days before Election Day. “One of the great things about having such an enormous sample size,” (Arnon) Mishkin says, “is that you can really drill down into the data.”...

“We’re not going to characterize the outcome in a state until all the polls in that state are closed.” But having a good idea of what the early vote looks like will help Fox News understand how returns from voting on Election Day will impact the final result. “Where we know the mail-in vote differs from the day-of vote, we will be sharing that.”...

I asked him if he has a gut feeling about how the race will go, and he said he did. But he’s not saying—and he’s not even sure he can trust his gut, as he really prefers to look at ***more reliable measures, like votes and polling data***...
https://www.forbes.com/sites/markjoyella/2020/10/21/why-fox-news-may-have-the-edge-in-calling-the-2020-presidential-race/

***”more reliable”...”polling data”. is he serious??


19 posted on 11/11/2020 6:28:23 PM PST by MAGAthon
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To: ConservativeMind

Don’t tell me what to do. Thank you.


20 posted on 11/11/2020 6:41:21 PM PST by moonhawk (These blue state tyrants seem to be doing their very best to turn their states red.)
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