Time to consider a plan B -- the political realities of North America require partition into two new countries

original to Free Republic | Nov 6, 2020 | Peter O'Donnell

[Black Agnes]

militarily the assets would be divided between the 2 future countries.

the remaining right wing country would have to fight the left country AND china.

hang together or hang separately.

[socialism_stinX]

I’ve been thinking the same way for years, that the best long-term political solution for the USA is to divide our country into three countries with a joint military alliance. The west coast would become the Pacific State of America (PSA), the northeast would become the Eastern States of America (ESA), and the rest of the country would remain the United States of America. The L-shaped heartland in the middle of our country wants totally different policies from the coastal elites, so it’s best in the long run to give the people in these three regions the policies they want. Then we can get rid of these awful laws passed by congress like Obamacare and Supreme Court decisions that force one kind of social policy on all regions of our country.

For now, however, conservatives and Republicans have to focus on stopping vote fraud and then become the majority party in more state governments so that we can prevent the dreadful vote fraud that has occurred this week in America. In the long term, it would be best of the USA to break up into three countries with a military alliance, a common currency, and free trade between the three new nations. That is probably the best way to preserve the rights of the conservative people in the American heartland over the long term.

[adorno]

No. Divide America and China and/or the UN will be on our soil so fast it will make your head spin.

Actually, you're wrong.

We can divide into two countries and still have a mutual defense agreement, where both countries contribute equally to that defense.

We have defense treaties with countries in Europe and elsewhere, where those countries have socialist governments.

My guess or belief is that, once those former states or new country discovers that socialism is destructive to their economies and to their social structure, that many (if not all), would want to rejoin the other new country, or the conservative better country.

[proud American in Canada]

A very intriguing idea!

It would take a lot of money, time and energy and work, but it’s very interesting.

[DownInFlames]

We have defense treaties from invasion, not against invitees.

[proud American in Canada]

Well, I’m getting the heck out of Quebec, that’s for sure.

Hope I can persuade my children to join me.

[adorno]

We have defense treaties from invasion, not against invitees.

Huh????

[Freedom of Speech Wins]

They would not be content without us to rule over and treat badly.

[Salman]

Only two?

[Cold War Veteran - Submarines]

I will admit my mind has wandered down this rabbit hole over the past couple of days.

[Luke21]

You keep spamming this. How about some specifics as to what should be done commander?

[Outlaw76]

As a mental exercise, I thought through several options.
The one that made the most sense was continuation of the union with semi autonomous, self governing City States that compete with one another for the resources of the heartland and sent delegates based on their population to the new republic's government. Each city state would have a limited number of delegates compared to that of the normal states.

The city states would be large but confined.

Eg. New York City, Chicago, Dallas, Houston, Atlanta, etc..

[OldGoatCPO]

Not feasible no matter how desirable. I would like to see maybe something on the order of a Red State Compact. Conservative States acting as an economic bloc, controlling trade, joint agreements and enacting laws to protect our States and enforce their sovereignty. Work to control interstate commerce and push for Pro Life, Freedom of Religion, 2nd Amendment protections and an agreement for a standardized way election are run in our Red States. i.e. Absentee ballots but no unsolicited ballots. We have to find a way to separate but remain a single Nation militarily and internationally. We need to fight and fight hard to reduce the feral..oops Federal... control over our lives. In the end we would thrive while Blue States like Oregon turn into Amsterdam and Frankfurt (of the 90’s) on steroids. Drug and criminal haven Oregon will soon become. We now have a Federal Government that half the country no longer trusts. The FBI is corrupt from top to bottom. There are no good FBI agents at least you have to assume that since there is no way to determine who is honest and who is not. The CIA and NSA are operating on US soil and treat our citizens like terrorists. The IRS is totally out of control and will get worse under Biden. The Executive branch has been totally corrupted including the DOJ. There are separate laws for our RULING CLASS and the rest of us. Without term limits our so called elected representatives are worthless swamp creatures. We have to bring back States Rights or the concept of what the author suggested will eventually become real.

[laxcoach]

I had a good friend tell me yesterday that the election was a vote for or against racism and nothing more. Vote straight D, or you are a racist.

How is it possible to coexist?

[Repealthe17thAmendment]

As much as the left hates us, they wouldn’t mind if we left. There’s no way they’d fight to keep us.

[OldGoatCPO]

Two economists predicted that the United States would eventually devolve into City States. Those areas not under a City State would eventually form into alliances. One they mentioned was a Chicago, Milwaukee City State the encompassed most of Northern Illinois and Southern Wisconsin up to and possibly including Madison Wisconsin. In terms of voting blocs, I think we are already there.

[SmokingJoe]

Countries much older than America have split up and split up and split up and regrouped and split up again.
There comes a time when people need to go their different ways. The differences cannot be fixed. Things fall apart and the center cannot hold.
It's like a marriage that has gone to the rocks with irreconcilabledifferences. Staying together is just painful for everybody.
It may be time to seriously consider splitting on ideological lines.

[OrangeHoof]

I’m up for burning down Atlanta again, starting at CNN Headquarters.

[proud American in Canada]

And the official name of the middle of the country would be... *drum roll*

FLYOVER COUNTRY

LOL!

[Scott from the Left Coast]

China already owns the entire U.S. government. Half of the military is better than having to fight the. Hines’s military AND the U.S military owned now by China’s proxies in the co-opted US government,