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Time to consider a plan B -- the political realities of North America require partition into two new countries
original to Free Republic | Nov 6, 2020 | Peter O'Donnell

Posted on 11/06/2020 12:59:50 PM PST by Peter ODonnell

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To: DownInFlames

Certainly some foreign entity.

The one that has always wanted it the most is the EU, which claims “respect for the principles of the UN Charter” in all its constitutional documents; and you can bet that the left on our soil would willingly help them unite their military forces.


21 posted on 11/06/2020 1:09:08 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Peter ODonnell

I’ve been a proponent of divorce for more than fifteen years. The alternative is a brutal, horrific civil war which is just waiting to kick off.


22 posted on 11/06/2020 1:09:28 PM PST by rigelkentaurus
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To: Peter ODonnell

1. This is ours and paid for in blood. No giving it away.
2. It wouldn’t work anyway. As soon as the depraved degenerates have eaten up all their own stuff, they’d simply move in to the new place and start taking our stuff.

3. If we had the spine, sand and simple plain common sense to prevent #2, there’d be no need to run away in the first place.


23 posted on 11/06/2020 1:10:55 PM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: Peter ODonnell

No effing way. The solution is to remove the problem or force it to leave on its own


24 posted on 11/06/2020 1:11:20 PM PST by Wilderness Conservative (Nature is the ultimate conservative)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Let the g-damn Northern Ork armies come down from coughing, wheezing rust belt states and try to prevent secession again.

This is all that trash can do. Try to rule us with thug fraud.


25 posted on 11/06/2020 1:11:22 PM PST by Regulator
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To: PIF

Exactly. The same thing was/is being done by lefties moving from blue states to red. Partition the states and the left-wing ones become our version of the Palestinian Authority.


26 posted on 11/06/2020 1:11:38 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Peter ODonnell

Great Idea! Fractionate America, let cutural marxism, Obamas dreams take america down for her enemies. let it evaporate with open borders.

Yes, an accomplished feat and fate.

THAT is wha the DNC and America’s enemies want!
Screw them all. Every last one of them.

The vote thieves need to be hung & Piked.


27 posted on 11/06/2020 1:12:02 PM PST by himno hero (had'nff)
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To: DownInFlames

I don’t know why people think China can just cross the ocean on a dime.

Remember, after 9/11 it took like 2 months just to start bombing and 9 months to a year build up to attack Iraq in 2003.

If it takes that long for the most powerful army in the world to take on small little countries, it would take China years.

Plus the 1 Child policy in China, nobody there is going to want to sacrifice their only child.


28 posted on 11/06/2020 1:12:10 PM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: Peter ODonnell

It’s Vanitypalooza today on Free Republic!


29 posted on 11/06/2020 1:13:29 PM PST by The Pack Knight
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Yes... I agree wholeheartedly.....alternative is a shooting war....


30 posted on 11/06/2020 1:13:43 PM PST by TnTnTn
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To: qam1

Red China is based on abolition of the family. Besides, does a war of attrition really require manpower or just automated firepower?


31 posted on 11/06/2020 1:14:36 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Black Agnes

“ China would LOVE us to be divided into two countries.”

I’m not so sure, considering China already wholly owns the entire U.S. government.

I’d prefer not to be a subject of a colony of China, which is all the United States is today.


32 posted on 11/06/2020 1:15:03 PM PST by Scott from the Left Coast (Make Orwell Fiction Again)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
If a strong secession movement took root in some state or region, would we use military force to keep such states or regions in the union today?

No. It would be messy but not violent. The elitist left might talk a lot, but ultimately they're p*****es. Their karens of both sexes would not allow their kids to fight.

33 posted on 11/06/2020 1:15:18 PM PST by rfp1234 (Caveat Emperor)
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To: Peter ODonnell

We could have this conversation, but it’s frankly too *** **** soon.

IMO, mind you.


34 posted on 11/06/2020 1:15:34 PM PST by OKSooner
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To: Peter ODonnell

I disagree. The problem is that out media has been gamed by our enemies, and as a result people are at each others throats without actually knowing why. We have the states for experimentation of different ways of doing things, but we have seen in history how well division works, which is to say, very badly indeed. Belfast Norther Ireland bad.

We need to drop the hair brained ideologies and pay attention to how policies impact the country. I don’t give a rats ass about how ideologically “pure” an idea, or what it’s pedigree is, the only relevant question is, does it work without causing more problems than it solves.

Pelosi needs to go. She is too divisive.


35 posted on 11/06/2020 1:15:49 PM PST by BlackAdderess (The Democratic party is between The Rock and a sanctimonious place)
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

It would divide our military necessarily.

Buy off one government (the left) and it would be a lead pipe cinch to defeat the other.

Half the opponent.


36 posted on 11/06/2020 1:15:55 PM PST by Black Agnes (1)
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To: Peter ODonnell

As long as it is just the cities that leave. One of my thoughts was expanding DC into northeast VA, moving part of the government to Philadelphia and incorporating it into DC, and selling LA to Mexico.


37 posted on 11/06/2020 1:16:33 PM PST by Ingtar
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To: Intar

They will be as they will have their TV shows, fads and such..Sitting fat and happy...


38 posted on 11/06/2020 1:17:31 PM PST by dpetty121263
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To: Black Agnes

There is no other half right now. The Left has ALL power. What you fear has already happened in the last three days.

And I hate to say this, but the military of the United States government is NOT our friend or the friend of the people. They serve their masters: the Democrat Party. And no one else.


39 posted on 11/06/2020 1:19:05 PM PST by Scott from the Left Coast (Make Orwell Fiction Again)
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The parts of Canada most likely to want association would be Alberta, Saskatchewan, the interior of BC, and possibly Manitoba -- Yukon and Northwest Territories have some potential but are influenced enough by leftist politics and substantial native demographics that they might freely reject such a concept ...

I can't think of any part of Canada that would want to join the train wreck that would result from two separate United States.

40 posted on 11/06/2020 1:19:10 PM PST by Lower Deck
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