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Some Facts You’re Not Hearing That Might Dampen Your Enthusiasm for a Shot of COVID-19 Vaccine
Red State ^ | 10/09/2020 | Michael Thau

Posted on 10/09/2020 8:01:57 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Apple Pan Dowdy

“Regeneron which is a treatment, not the vaccine”

The article in Yahoo News says it promotes the production on of antibodies in the recipient. By implication that appears to a vaccine as well as a treatment.

But, does it matter? If the treatment is effective in allowing a patient to recover in 48-72 hours and is affordable, do we need a vaccine? If you get the virus and go get a shot/IV and in 48-72 hours you’ve recovered,this pandemic is over.

That appears to be what happened to PDJT. And, he has authorized 1 million doses/treatments at taxpayer expense.


61 posted on 10/10/2020 10:55:54 AM PDT by Fai Mao (There is no justice until PIAPPS is hanging from a gallows.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

OK, it seems now that y ou are unwilling to learn. Thats fine. I never said it should be mandated, but existing safe drugs that are not curative. You are willing to kill people with your proclaimed self expertise.

This answered every question. have.

As for it being untried — ask the 50,000 phase three volunteers who enrolled in the study. Your lies are breathtaking. According to the same standard of every other therapeutic and drug, if this passes phase III and it looks as if it will, it was vetted the same way everything else in America is. In fact it has more vetting than the experimental drug used on the president.

You have no desire to learn
You simply wish to kill people with your own agenda and intentional ignorance.

Disgusting.


62 posted on 10/10/2020 11:13:37 AM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: cpdiii

The bullshit of this article and those who scurry to it and hold it out as gospel truth is rather breathtaking, isn’t it?


63 posted on 10/10/2020 11:15:16 AM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: VeniVidiVici

IT DOES NOT GENETICALLY ALTER YOUR CELLS. PLEASE pick up a 9th grade biology book and educate yourself. Stop repeating talking points that only make you look like an ignorant jackass. Unless of course, you are an ignorant jackass.


64 posted on 10/10/2020 11:16:57 AM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: Eva

Your post sounds exactly like me, same kinds of histamine reaction to almost everything, so I too will take a wait and see approach. Every medicine or supplement I start the first time, I have to start with a tiny bit to make sure I don’t react.


65 posted on 10/10/2020 11:19:53 AM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: Fai Mao

The article is wrong. This is a monoclonal antibody infusion that does not stimulate an immune response. it is NOT a vaccine. It is a treatment that is based on the EXACT same science that the mRNA vaccine is based on. The IgG in the president was from his own immune system and appeared at the appropriate time after becoming infected. The infused antibodies were utilized to TREAT the infection. There are 1M doses of the EXPERIMENTAL medication used on the president, 330MM people in the US. This drug is NOT wisely available, and is being rationed according to hot sports.

It is important people understand, read, and comprehend the whole story.


66 posted on 10/10/2020 11:20:20 AM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: gas_dr
👍 thank you for your posts on this subject.
67 posted on 10/10/2020 11:23:37 AM PDT by hawkaw
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To: SeekAndFind

We don’t need no stink’n vaccine.

https://voat.co/v/theawakening/4060951


68 posted on 10/10/2020 12:19:20 PM PDT by iontheball
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To: SeekAndFind

When I want medical advice, my first thought isn’t “RedState”


69 posted on 10/10/2020 12:45:27 PM PDT by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?)
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To: Fai Mao

Okay, Fai Mao.... we were all discussing the vaccine and you said, ” This is the treatment they gave the President. I’d say that gives it a lot of credibility”. So my mistake, I guess, because I took that to mean that you were saying because the Regeneron worked well on Trump, then that gives credibility to the vaccine, which is a leap to say the least.

So forgive me for not understanding your leap of reasoning.

However, my FRiend, you are right about the success of Regeneron leaving little use for a vaccine, much less a REQUIRED vaccine, and one that is only 50% effective. But we all know why they want the required vaccine.... in a nutshell... it’s all about control.


70 posted on 10/10/2020 12:48:09 PM PDT by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie)
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To: LilFarmer; Eva; blackangus

Same here

And once you get an injection, there’s no getting it out.

You just have to wait out the reaction and hope it doesn’t end with an ERvisit.


71 posted on 10/10/2020 1:49:57 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith.....)
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To: gas_dr

I didn’t know what you thought. I still don’t on the mandatory part.

As for the survivable illnesses we vaccinate for, I have zero issue with measles being on that list and one heckuva one with chicken pox.

As for spreading fear and panic, distrust does that.

As for playing politics, this expletive-deleted charlie foxtrot was NEVER about public health and ALWAYS about politics.


72 posted on 10/10/2020 2:00:50 PM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: mewzilla

I absolutely do not believe in the authoritarianism of mandatory vaccines. I strongly advocate against it. I


73 posted on 10/10/2020 2:17:45 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: mewzilla

I also agree that this is a total Charlie Foxtrot.


74 posted on 10/10/2020 2:18:27 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: gas_dr

Thanks! Hopefully, I’m wrong to be suspicious and the vaccine will be a Godsend, especially for the elderly and other risk folks who might benefit from it.


75 posted on 10/10/2020 2:24:36 PM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: dp0622
genetically altering your cells with RNA from the virus....

Wait - what? Think about what that means. I mean please really think that the through.

76 posted on 10/10/2020 2:43:14 PM PDT by Fury (.)
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To: gas_dr
... but dont spread misinformation and fear porn that it is mandatory, a tracking device, and all the related kooky conspiracy theories that are associated with this.

You got all of that out of my post? this post?

77 posted on 10/10/2020 3:35:57 PM PDT by TigersEye (In all things ... trigger discipline.)
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To: Arcadian Empire; gas_dr; metmom; Veto!
mRNA vaccines are deadly.

I don't think you know that any more than gas_dr knows that it is safe. As the article said "no mRNA vaccine has ever been used before."

I won't accept the idea that no one can question it though.

78 posted on 10/10/2020 3:41:22 PM PDT by TigersEye (In all things ... trigger discipline.)
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To: gas_dr

Thank you for that detailed explanation. I appreciate the education.


79 posted on 10/12/2020 7:02:19 PM PDT by definitelynotaliberal (I believe it! He's alive! Sweet Jesus!)
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To: metmom

I am not getting any vaccine until it has been thoroughly tested and I know that it won’t trigger a reaction.


80 posted on 10/15/2020 9:37:13 PM PDT by Eva
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