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1 posted on 10/09/2020 4:40:47 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Bfl


2 posted on 10/09/2020 4:47:44 PM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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Sweden's example cannot be followed because it does not offer the control that the shutdowns entail. many of us said after the first rush of bad news about the Chinese virus that it should be allowed to run its course then later when the nature of it was more apparent, that the at-riskers- should be protected as much as possible but that the rest should be treated as if this is another bout of seasonal flu. A virus like this cannot be contained in the modern world that is all linked up. Heck, such things could not be contined in centuries past with less travel because there has for thousands of years ben contact and trade between civilizations. When a benign plague such as this one(in comparison to Bubonic) is met by lockdowns and rigid control it merely lengthens the virus's stay in the population. It does not cut down on lethality, merely spreads it out and causes a lot more ancillary deaths from depression and untreated other diseases like cancer and heart attack. Let it run and the deaths come in one wave and immunity follows. Even the Spanish Flu of a century ago could not have been mitigated with modern prevention methods though the lethality of that one in modern America would have been much less because of modern treatment capabilities.

But that cannot be done when there is so much political profit and opportunity for the powerful to clamp down controls on the population which will be lifted reluctantly if at all.

3 posted on 10/09/2020 5:01:08 PM PDT by arthurus ( covfefe 2)
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bkmk


4 posted on 10/09/2020 5:01:33 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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Interesting.


6 posted on 10/09/2020 5:14:18 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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And most people in Sweden live alone. There was plenty of mitigation and social distancing, contrary to the FluBro narrative. Also, take the deliberate murder of people in retirement homes by certain Dem Governors and even the massive ODD in the US still has better outcomes. Overall, Sweden, without many of the factors present in the US, did not do that much better, and as noted, without the geronticide committed by Cuomo, et. al., they did significantly worse. And they’ve been fudging their numbers to boot.


8 posted on 10/09/2020 5:19:32 PM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant. Join the war effort. On the human side.)
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The reopening of schools, colleges, restaurants and maybe even churches are being held up by CV19 higher rates with so called migrant workers, illegals, and ???? in their rigged testing.

Lab Coat Tyranny: California is using “public health” as a rationale to push progressive political goals.

This is a big cracking of the tyranny code being used to destroy our cities, counties and states.

Lab Coat Tyranny
California is using “public health” as a rationale to push progressive political goals.
Christopher F. Rufo

October 9, 2020 Covid-19 California Economy, finance, and budgets:

Public health authorities in California have unveiled a “Blueprint for a Safer Economy” that requires counties to meet new “health equity metrics” in order to emerge from the current Covid-19 lockdowns. It’s a broad experiment in social justice. Under the plan, counties must reduce “disparities in levels of transmission” in “low-income, Black, Latino, [and] Pacific Islander” communities before they can move forward with reopening. In effect, local businesses must remain closed until local bureaucrats are satisfied that ill-defined racial quotas have been met.

The underlying assumption of the blueprint is that race-based coronavirus disparities are the result of “systemic racism,” despite zero evidence that the state’s coronavirus policies have been discriminatory. The plan ignores potential differences in culture, behavior, and underlying health, resting instead on the premise that racism is the driving force behind every disparate outcome. The blueprint also subverts the democratic process. Unelected public health officials are restricting essential freedoms, including mobility, worship, and economic activity, without deliberation by the state legislature or the possibility of review or appeal.

Unfortunately, the California blueprint is just part of a broader pattern of state governments using public health as a rationale for seizing power. Throughout the pandemic, blue-state politicians have appealed to science as justification for long-term economic lockdowns, mask mandates, and other emergency measures, regardless of whether these policies have been sanctioned by state legislatures or voters. Science becomes the highest authority; citizens must obey.

Yet progressive leaders have been willing immediately to jettison science when it conflicts with their pre-existing political priorities. Earlier this summer, leading epidemiologists pilloried conservative lockdown protestors—declaring them a threat to public health—but then endorsed the much larger Black Lives Matter protests following the death of George Floyd in May. In short, they created a policy of “science for thee, but not for me.”

The disproportionate victims of any attempt to race-code the criteria for reopening in California will be the poor, the marginalized, and the nonwhite—the very people whom the equity policies are supposed to help. If, that is, Los Angeles County fails to reopen because it falls short of its “health equity metrics,” the Zoom class of intellectuals, public health officials, and progressive politicians will celebrate its own good intentions, even as bartenders, waitresses, taxi drivers, and small shopkeepers—many of them minorities—find themselves out of work.

The public should be on alert. If the progressive-scientific establishment can simply dictate policy outside the democratic process by appealing to “public health equity”—a vague concept that can extend to almost every facet of human life—voters may soon find themselves at the mercy of a new “soft totalitarianism,” as author Rod Dreher has characterized it. Citizens with a basic respect for freedom should resist this new encroachment. It degrades science, language, and democracy all at once, and acknowledges no natural limit to its power. Tyranny in a lab coat would still be tyranny.

Christopher F. Rufo is a contributing editor of City Journal and director of the Discovery Institute’s Center on Wealth & Poverty. He’s directed four documentaries for PBS, including his new film, America Lost, which tells the story of three “forgotten American cities.” Follow him on Facebook and Twitter.

https://www.city-journal.org/california-race-coding-criteria-for-reopening


9 posted on 10/09/2020 5:22:22 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (The line that separated Satire, Democrats and Stupidity has vanished. (thanks to jonascord)!)
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Sweden doesn’t have the black and Hispanic population that the US does. A lot of US deaths were concentrated in those groups.


12 posted on 10/09/2020 5:57:47 PM PDT by diatomite (Soros delenda est and his flying monkeys too.)
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bfl


13 posted on 10/09/2020 5:59:43 PM PDT by Songcraft
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... and relied on social responsibility ...

IOWs the Swedish government treated their citizens like adults. They gave recommendations, not orders, and the citizens responded like adults and used common sense precautions where it applied. I'd bet on it!

17 posted on 10/09/2020 6:32:03 PM PDT by TigersEye (In all things ... trigger discipline.)
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bttt


19 posted on 10/09/2020 7:26:32 PM PDT by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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