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Marijuana vote poses November risk for Democrats
Politico ^ | 09/09/2020 | NATALIE FERTIG and PAUL DEMKO

Posted on 09/11/2020 8:07:34 AM PDT by NobleFree

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To: NobleFree

This thread has rabid pot supporter noblefree working overtime.


61 posted on 09/11/2020 11:07:35 AM PDT by MarvinStinson
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To: fireman15
Did you even allow yourself to notice that alcohol and tobacco are included in that graphic? Thanks for making my case for me!
62 posted on 09/11/2020 11:08:29 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree

So I am making your point when I use a graphic that shows that marijuans like alcohol and tobacco is bad for you also. Anyone who advocates for substances that cause harm to the public is an idiot. The marijuana “industry” in Washington State is now bigger than alcohol and tobacco combined. Billions of dollars worth of a mind altering substance is causing great harm to the public and we have you and others like you to blame.


63 posted on 09/11/2020 11:17:08 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: NobleFree

Fedzilla doesn’t need Constitutional authority.

Fedzilla has highway funds.

That said until we have that national standard for pot, we shouldn’t legalize it.


64 posted on 09/11/2020 11:19:25 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: fireman15
So I am making your point when I use a graphic that shows that marijuans like alcohol and tobacco is bad for you also. Anyone who advocates for substances that cause harm to the public is an idiot.

So do you oppose the legality of alcohol and tobacco - or are you an idiot?

65 posted on 09/11/2020 11:22:05 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: mewzilla

“Fedzilla doesn’t need Constitutional authority.

“Fedzilla has highway funds.”

Take it to DU.


66 posted on 09/11/2020 11:25:00 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree

This is what brings out the lib votes.
Wise up Republicans.


67 posted on 09/11/2020 11:30:28 AM PDT by TianaHighrider (God bless President Trump)
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To: fireman15

Wow you live in a Washington on a differet planet than I do. I in no way see your dark world.


68 posted on 09/11/2020 11:31:45 AM PDT by Pilated (.)
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To: TianaHighrider
This is what brings out the lib votes.
Wise up Republicans.

What specifically do you recommend that Republicans do?

69 posted on 09/11/2020 11:32:23 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree

Realize the freedom to eat, drink, and breath what you want are as basic of God given rights as self defense.
Personal responsibility and natural consequences are results.


70 posted on 09/11/2020 11:49:59 AM PDT by TianaHighrider (God bless President Trump)
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To: TianaHighrider
Realize the freedom to eat, drink, and breath what you want are as basic of God given rights as self defense. Personal responsibility and natural consequences are results.

Amen!

So Republicans should wise up by ceasing to oppose natural rights? That I'd heartily agree with.

71 posted on 09/11/2020 11:53:02 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: KC_Lion

Thanks for the ping.

Medical cannabis here in Florida proved ALL the naysayers wrong. Crime didn’t develop where dispensaries are opened & kids weren’t being given cannabis candy as the fear mongers predicted.

Cannabis should be legal for any American to have, grow & use if they so chose.

I wish President Trump was on board for ending the federal prohibition. He would win 48 states if he did. He’s still going to win, regardless.


72 posted on 09/12/2020 2:16:05 AM PDT by TheStickman (#MAGA all day every day!)
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To: fireman15

You bitching about someone supporting a favorite cause now?

Been watching you whine & moan for 2 years on this issue & you’ve changed zero minds in the process here at FR.

A closed mind is a terrible waste of gray matter.


73 posted on 09/12/2020 2:20:27 AM PDT by TheStickman (#MAGA all day every day!)
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To: TheStickman; NobleFree
Been watching you whine & moan for 2 years on this issue & you’ve changed zero minds in the process here at FR.

Pot is outselling tobacco and booze combined in Washington State. It is causing huge societal, safety, and problems for countless individuals especially vulnerable children and young people. I have witnessed it first hand with family members, firends and the general public. When I first started working as a firefighter the substance abuse problems we faced were mostly caused by alcohol, meth, heroin and other “hard” drugs. These days it is mostly pot.

There are very few Antifa or BLM terrorists who are not pot smokers. Coincidence... I do not think so. The same can be said of the homeless bums that are becoming a larger and larger problem anywhere marijuana is legal or tollerated. The reasons why pot affects the brain the way that it does and results in people who have a disconnect between reality and delusional living are too lengthy to mention in this comment and you and your pot smoking brethren here do not bother to follow any links that counter your world view anyway.

So you have been watching me try to counter the lies being told on this subject for 2 years? LOL!!! Sorry pal, this has been a subject that I have been commenting on, any time it has come up for the last 16 years. It was obvious from my years of work on the streets in the city where I worked as a fire officer that pot users had a much higher incidence of serious psych problems. I could not care less if telling the truth to lies changes the opinion of the potheads and industry shills here. I am not trying to reach those who are pot smoking idiots... I am speaking to the 95% here who really couldn't give a rat's behind about your pet subject.

As far as the progress that I have made here... Many advocates here used to claim that marijuana was completely harmless, even beneficial and should even be given to children and pets. We do not see that as often these days largely because they were countered with actual evidence of harm caused. These days even NobleFree admits that mariuana causes harm... in fact he denies now that he has ever said that marijuana was harmless.

“Not only have I never said marijuana is harmless, I have explicitly said the opposite TO YOU” 9/11/2020, 9:47:20 AM · 41 of 73 NobleFree to fireman15

Your lead advocate has essentially been neutered by people who provide facts in response to his nonsense. In the four years that he has graced us with his presence NobleFree’s only real argument has evolved into... people should be allowed to harm themselves with marijuana because they are allowed to harm themselves with other substances and behaviors as well. Holy cow!!! That is what he has been reduced to. Pathetic... So I have changed "zero minds" here? I have changed you lead advocate's mind. If you have got the time... click back through NobleFree's posting history to when he first showed up here... Then tell me that I have not changed anyone's mind... Ha ha ha!!! He is marijuana advocate that has been kneecapped by myself and others here.

74 posted on 09/12/2020 9:00:46 AM PDT by fireman15
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These days even NobleFree admits that mariuana causes harm... in fact he denies now that he has ever said that marijuana was harmless. [...] click back through NobleFree's posting history to when he first showed up here... Then tell me that I have not changed anyone's mind... Ha ha ha!!! He is marijuana advocate that has been kneecapped by myself and others here.

More of your BS - you can't link to a single post where I ever said marijuana is harmless.

NobleFree’s only real argument has evolved into... people should be allowed to harm themselves with marijuana because they are allowed to harm themselves with other substances and behaviors as well.

Close and yet so far. Part of my argument is that if you really believed your argument that marijuana should be/remain banned because it's harmful, you'd support at least in words a ban on the harmful drugs alcohol and tobacco - yet like most of your ilk, you flee from addressing that point as you did most recently in not responding to post #65:

To: fireman15
So I am making your point when I use a graphic that shows that marijuans like alcohol and tobacco is bad for you also. Anyone who advocates for substances that cause harm to the public is an idiot.

So do you oppose the legality of alcohol and tobacco - or are you an idiot?


75 posted on 09/12/2020 10:25:40 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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These days even NobleFree admits that mariuana causes harm... in fact he denies now that he has ever said that marijuana was harmless. [...] click back through NobleFree's posting history to when he first showed up here... Then tell me that I have not changed anyone's mind... Ha ha ha!!! He is marijuana advocate that has been kneecapped by myself and others here.

Choke on this, liar:

My first post was on 11/10/2016, as can be seen at http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:noblefree/index?more=101952000; 11 days later I posted, "Most if not all mind-altering substances - including marijuana (and alcohol) - are bad for the user."

76 posted on 09/12/2020 10:42:55 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree
Congratulations, you acually spent the time to go back through your posting history. Maybe this graphic from that same thread will remind you that legalizing marijuana in this state has resulted in untold numbers of traffic fatalities since that time period. What about the rights of those who have died because of the billions of dollars of marijuana consumed by irresponsible a$$whipes in this state?

101 posted on 11/20/2016, 5:45:07 PM by The Iceman Cometh

77 posted on 09/12/2020 11:19:15 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: The Iceman Cometh

I posted a graphic that you included in a post from 4 years ago and forgot to include you in the to line.


78 posted on 09/12/2020 11:22:27 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: fireman15
Congratulations, you acually spent the time to go back through your posting history.

Which is more than you did before making false claims about it. A man of character would apologize for that; whether you will remains to be seen.

79 posted on 09/12/2020 11:25:54 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree
Choke on this, liar:

Hey, moron... can you even read???

Quoting myself, “As far as the progress that I have made here... Many advocates here used to claim that marijuana was completely harmless, even beneficial and should even be given to children and pets. We do not see that as often these days largely because they were countered with actual evidence of harm caused. These days even NobleFree admits that mariuana causes harm... in fact he denies now that he has ever said that marijuana was harmless.”

I didn't say that you said that marijuana was harmless... I said that you denied ever saying that marijuana was harmless. Now when did you stop beating your wife? Lol!!!

80 posted on 09/12/2020 11:29:49 AM PDT by fireman15
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