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To: TheStickman; NobleFree
Been watching you whine & moan for 2 years on this issue & you’ve changed zero minds in the process here at FR.

Pot is outselling tobacco and booze combined in Washington State. It is causing huge societal, safety, and problems for countless individuals especially vulnerable children and young people. I have witnessed it first hand with family members, firends and the general public. When I first started working as a firefighter the substance abuse problems we faced were mostly caused by alcohol, meth, heroin and other “hard” drugs. These days it is mostly pot.

There are very few Antifa or BLM terrorists who are not pot smokers. Coincidence... I do not think so. The same can be said of the homeless bums that are becoming a larger and larger problem anywhere marijuana is legal or tollerated. The reasons why pot affects the brain the way that it does and results in people who have a disconnect between reality and delusional living are too lengthy to mention in this comment and you and your pot smoking brethren here do not bother to follow any links that counter your world view anyway.

So you have been watching me try to counter the lies being told on this subject for 2 years? LOL!!! Sorry pal, this has been a subject that I have been commenting on, any time it has come up for the last 16 years. It was obvious from my years of work on the streets in the city where I worked as a fire officer that pot users had a much higher incidence of serious psych problems. I could not care less if telling the truth to lies changes the opinion of the potheads and industry shills here. I am not trying to reach those who are pot smoking idiots... I am speaking to the 95% here who really couldn't give a rat's behind about your pet subject.

As far as the progress that I have made here... Many advocates here used to claim that marijuana was completely harmless, even beneficial and should even be given to children and pets. We do not see that as often these days largely because they were countered with actual evidence of harm caused. These days even NobleFree admits that mariuana causes harm... in fact he denies now that he has ever said that marijuana was harmless.

“Not only have I never said marijuana is harmless, I have explicitly said the opposite TO YOU” 9/11/2020, 9:47:20 AM · 41 of 73 NobleFree to fireman15

Your lead advocate has essentially been neutered by people who provide facts in response to his nonsense. In the four years that he has graced us with his presence NobleFree’s only real argument has evolved into... people should be allowed to harm themselves with marijuana because they are allowed to harm themselves with other substances and behaviors as well. Holy cow!!! That is what he has been reduced to. Pathetic... So I have changed "zero minds" here? I have changed you lead advocate's mind. If you have got the time... click back through NobleFree's posting history to when he first showed up here... Then tell me that I have not changed anyone's mind... Ha ha ha!!! He is marijuana advocate that has been kneecapped by myself and others here.

74 posted on 09/12/2020 9:00:46 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: fireman15; TheStickman
These days even NobleFree admits that mariuana causes harm... in fact he denies now that he has ever said that marijuana was harmless. [...] click back through NobleFree's posting history to when he first showed up here... Then tell me that I have not changed anyone's mind... Ha ha ha!!! He is marijuana advocate that has been kneecapped by myself and others here.

More of your BS - you can't link to a single post where I ever said marijuana is harmless.

NobleFree’s only real argument has evolved into... people should be allowed to harm themselves with marijuana because they are allowed to harm themselves with other substances and behaviors as well.

Close and yet so far. Part of my argument is that if you really believed your argument that marijuana should be/remain banned because it's harmful, you'd support at least in words a ban on the harmful drugs alcohol and tobacco - yet like most of your ilk, you flee from addressing that point as you did most recently in not responding to post #65:

To: fireman15
So I am making your point when I use a graphic that shows that marijuans like alcohol and tobacco is bad for you also. Anyone who advocates for substances that cause harm to the public is an idiot.

So do you oppose the legality of alcohol and tobacco - or are you an idiot?


75 posted on 09/12/2020 10:25:40 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: fireman15; TheStickman
These days even NobleFree admits that mariuana causes harm... in fact he denies now that he has ever said that marijuana was harmless. [...] click back through NobleFree's posting history to when he first showed up here... Then tell me that I have not changed anyone's mind... Ha ha ha!!! He is marijuana advocate that has been kneecapped by myself and others here.

Choke on this, liar:

My first post was on 11/10/2016, as can be seen at http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:noblefree/index?more=101952000; 11 days later I posted, "Most if not all mind-altering substances - including marijuana (and alcohol) - are bad for the user."

76 posted on 09/12/2020 10:42:55 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: fireman15
He is marijuana advocate

That remains your lie - I have never advocated the use of marijuana, but only its legalization so that adults can make their own choices about use.

83 posted on 09/12/2020 11:43:45 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: fireman15

All that ranting, all the fallacy:

You have no way of knowing if the marxist POS BLM turds are cannabis users or not.

You fallaciously describe the effect of cannabis on myself & others who use it medicinally. You speak with “certain knowledge” of things you cannot possibly know as if they were fact.

100% non-persuasive as a result. Fallacy never persuades.


87 posted on 09/13/2020 12:30:09 AM PDT by TheStickman (#MAGA all day every day!)
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