Posted on 07/31/2020 2:27:12 PM PDT by CheshireTheCat
As Ontario, Canada prepares to open schools for children in September, Ontario’s Associate Chief Medical Officer of Health Dr. Barbara Yaffe warned against mass testing for the COVID-19 China coronavirus, saying it takes resources from other needed areas and does not “actually achieve anything.” Dr. Yaffe also said that in areas with low incidences of COVID infection, the rate for false positive test results is “almost half.”
Yaffe said testing should be reserved for suspected cases, people with symptoms and their contacts...
(Excerpt) Read more at thegatewaypundit.com ...
Sometimes Canada has flashes of common sense.
Read about all those people who received a notice they checked negative for the virus and didn’t really get checked.
I think that testing is ridiculous...but i am not a dem.
I you start feeling reallly sick out of the blue, feels like it’s not a cold, allergies or the flu call your doctor or go to the emergency room.
If not?
Go on with your life..
How is low incidence known without testing?
Exactly.
JUST MAKKE HCQ AND ZINC SULFATE OTC DRUGS AND PANDEMIC OVER.
IN THE MEANTIME, TAKE A ZICAM TWICE A DAY.
The only thing this mass testing will accomplish is:
False positives will - guaranteed - enhance the feeling of anxiety and fear in the population
to
Give the DEEP STATE even more power over the population in general
“Sometimes Canada has flashes of common sense.”
No place in the multiverse approaches the idiocy of California, New York, and Illinois.
Quarantines once were for people who were sick, NOT for people who were well.
Our world has been turned THAT upside down
if the rates of false positives are near half in areas with few Covid cases, What are the rates in areas with “lots” of Covid cases ?
Are there really lots of cases ?
I wonder if goats and papayas would test positive?
How about Washington D.C.?
Most importantly the test has never been vetted, in the real world, for its claimed ability to detect whether a patient is ill or is going to become ill.
According to the CDC 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel https://bit.ly/2L8NV9I
“Positive results are indicative of active infection with 2019-nCoV but do not rule out bacterial infection or co-infection with other viruses. The agent detected may not be the definite cause of disease.
Negative results do not preclude 2019-nCoV infection and should not be used as the sole basis for treatment or other patient management decisions.”
Translation: A positive test doesn’t guarantee that the COVID virus is causing infection at all. Then again, maybe the COVID virus is not be in the patient’s body either.
From the World Health Organization (WHO): “Coronavirus disease (COVID-19) technical guidance: Laboratory testing for 2019-nCoV in humans” https://bit.ly/3cidWiS
“Several assays that detect the 2019-nCoV have been and are currently under development, both in-house and commercially. Some assays may detect only the novel virus [COVID] and some may also detect other strains (e.g. SARS-CoV) that are genetically similar.”
Translation: Some PCR tests register positive for types of coronavirus that have nothing to do with COVID—including plain old coronas that cause nothing more than a cold.
As far as the “assays that detect the 2019-nCOV that are currently under development. Yeah, just a few.
For a test that is supposed to be so definitive and accurate, there sure are a great many firms in development of testing for the diagnosis of COVID-19
Actually, 761 of them the diagnostic pipeline at the time of this post as a matter of fact. https://bit.ly/3clw4Za
If the testing on this is so definitive, why are 761 companies still developing testing for it?
Possibly because they still have not effectively isolated the virus and still don’t know what exactly it is that they are looking for.
Or could it be that it is extremely difficult to detect this SARS-CoV-2 virus because it is easily defeated by the immune system? (Note: SARS-CoV-2 virus. Hmmm…thought this was something so novel we have not seen it before? When then is it so similar to the SARS virus that it is called SARS-CoV-2 then? That would indicate that it is similar in nature to a virus we are well aware of so similar to a known virus that it is labeled as -2.
Gee, maybe not so novel after all huh? No more novel than any other mutated SARS virus which is quite common with RNA viruses like this SARS-CoV-2 virus btw. All RNA viruses mutate regularly which is why these virus vaccines are so ineffective, their target changes so quickly.
Or possibly that it is so immensely difficult to test an individual for a specific virus when the samples are always contaminated with all kinds of germs including bacteria, other viral strains and other DNA/RNA bearing tissues?
But what do the manufacturers say about the COVID diagnostic test? How about this gem from Creative Diagnostics, a popular test manufacturer:
This product is intended for the detection of 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV). The detection result of this product is only for clinical reference, and it should not be used as the only evidence for clinical diagnosis and treatment. https://bit.ly/2KnJ4kP
In other words: Don’t use the test result alone to diagnose infection or disease.
Pretty confident about their testing huh?
Perhaps that is why the CDC includes “probable cases” in their statistical counts:
What is a COVID-19 probable case?
A probable case or death is defined by
Meeting clinical criteria AND epidemiologic evidence with no confirmatory laboratory testing performed for COVID-19; or
Meeting presumptive laboratory evidence AND either clinical criteria OR epidemiologic evidence; or Meeting vital records criteria with no confirmatory laboratory testing performed for COVID-19. https://bit.ly/3bdziMV
Translation: You don’t even have to have “confirmatory laboratory testing performed” in order for the case to be considered a COVID-19 case.
I guess that could be helpful to the hospitals who have had their cash cows of elective surgery eliminated (80% of many hospitals incomes) and are losing money now.
They could just drop a medicare patient into the “probable COVID-19 category” and go from a standard Medicare admit of $4,600 to a COVID admit billable for $13,000 now. About a 3X billable increase.
And heck, if they can get them on a ventilator with a COVID diagnosis, the Medicare admit jumps to $39,000, over an 8-fold increase!
I guess its a conspiracy theory to imagine that hospitals losing money due to the contraction of their scheduled surgery income would begin to amazingly turn up more COVID cases and put some of these people with respiratory issues on ventilators as well.
Yeah…might not have anything to do with increasing revenues I guess since we know that ALL hospitals and doctors operate with full integrity and complete concern for ALL patients.
Uh, interested in a bridge in Brooklyn real cheap?
Any leftist enclave can have bursts of insanity that make us wonder if they are the worst but they are all in serious competition with each other to be Lord of the Idiots.
Massive testing was the bill of goods sold to the mask-wearing sheeple to keep the COVID-19 scare going. The high number of positive tests provided the tyrants with the excuse to impose/reinstate restrictions and mandates and to prevent school openings. People should not get a test unless/until they experience symptoms of the disease.
Example one of how the Marxist’s will ramp down the fear, panic and hysteria
Deaths
Population of my city is 200,000.
We came out of the gate strong, 3 deaths.
Five months later, we remain at 3 deaths.
Local government idjits are sooooo concerned about those 3 deaths, six months ago, they now mandate everyone wear masks when they shop.
I have found no coverage by FakeNewsMSM!
Yahoo Canada had a google result with summary showing “false positives” quote, but it was a different article when you open it, with no reference to Dr. Jaffe. even the link on CTV tweet to a CTV article has nothing to do with Jaffe & “false positives”.
a few alternative websites are carrying it:
31 Jul: The Scoop US: WATCH: Canadian Medical Official Warns Against Mass COVID-19 Testing, “It Will Not Achieve Anything Other Than Take Resources Away” (VIDEO)
by Joe Visconti
Canadian associate Chief Medical Officer of Health Dr. Barbara Yaffe warned against mass COVID-19 testing so that resources can be reallocated to test and treat only suspected cases.
Dr. Yaffe opened with, “A lot of people think that testing is going to really solve the whole problem, and it isn’t. It’s one component of a response. If you test somebody today, you only know if they’re infected today. And in fact, if you’re testing in a population that doesn’t have very much COVID, you’ll get false positives almost half the time. That is, the person actually doesn’t have COVID. They have something else. They may have nothing.”...
VIDEO: 3m59s
https://thescoop.us/watch-canadian-medical-official-warns-against-mass-covid-19-testing-it-will-not-achieve-anything-other-than-take-resources-away-video/
results were even worse on Bing and DuckDuckGo.
the tweet is dated 31 Jul 2020, so Jaffe’s statement should be current.
Tweet: CTV News, Ontario, Canada
Ontario Associate Chief Medical Officer of Health Dr. Barbara Yaffe says mandatory COVID-19 testing for teachers “will just complicate the picture.” Read more: CTV LINK
VIDEO 1m46s
31 Jul 2020
https://twitter.com/CTVNews/status/1288907122818854913
this story should go VIRAL.
A rundown of what I do know.
The models are crap. the first model forecast one or two million dead.
The tests return plenty of false positives.
The death counts are crap. Folks dying in car accidents can be counted as covid death.
The folks returning to good health, or presented zero symtons, are not reported
Rhinovirus. This bunch is most active in early fall, spring, and summer. They cause 10%-40% of colds. You’ll feel plenty miserable when you catch one, but the good news is they rarely make you seriously sick.
Coronavirus. These tend to do their dirty work in the winter and early spring. The coronavirus is the cause of about 20% of colds. There are more than 30 kinds, but only three or four affect people.
RSV and parainfluenza. These viruses cause 20% of colds.
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