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New video in Ahmaud Arbery case offers a view of what happened moments before the deadly shooting
11Alive youtube channel ^ | May 9,2020 | 11Alive

Posted on 05/10/2020 7:39:27 PM PDT by Widget Jr

It shows a man who appears to be Arbery entering and walking around a house being built. The men who killed Arbery told police they were concerned about break-ins.


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KEYWORDS: ahmaud; ahmaudarbery; arbery; banglist; executed4looking; georgia; mcmasters; race; shooting; thuglife
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To: KC_Conspirator

They are in deep doo doo.


81 posted on 05/10/2020 10:06:55 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Widget Jr

I don’t give a rats behind what he was doing. Those 2 idiots need to go to jail for a long long time.


82 posted on 05/10/2020 10:07:20 PM PDT by vpintheak (Live free, or die!)
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To: marktwain

Ahh, I was hoping you’d chime in, but not on spelling LOL


83 posted on 05/10/2020 10:08:51 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: marktwain

Ahh, I was hoping you’d chime in, but not on spelling LOL


84 posted on 05/10/2020 10:08:51 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Sir Bangaz Cracka

Anything from Barnhill is suspect since he worked with the older McMichaels in the DA office

Barnhill is accused of cover up and now is investigated by the GBI

Please don’t post his corrupt garbage here, unless you label it as such.


85 posted on 05/10/2020 10:15:34 PM PDT by Trump.Deplorable
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To: mylife
In fairness to the McMichaels, the confrontation went lethal when Aubery came at the man who was pointing a shotgun at him. They were fools though to try to act as some sort of citizen armed response to a supposed burglar.

Two potentially crucial fact issues: Aubery's reputation and record as to criminal misbehavior, violence, or hot-headedness, and his medication and substance use. If he had a criminal record for burglary, was inclined to be violent and hot-headed, and was on meth, the controversy would take a different course.

86 posted on 05/10/2020 10:16:18 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: marktwain

87 posted on 05/10/2020 10:17:11 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Widget Jr

The first DA was their pal

McMicheal, the elder, worked in the DA’s office

The DA slow walked it and exonerated them because they were good friends.

That didn’t fly too well with the state investigators, he was suppose to refer the case to them if they knows the perps.


88 posted on 05/10/2020 10:20:47 PM PDT by Trump.Deplorable
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To: Rockingham

Two potentially crucial fact issues: Aubery’s reputation and record as to criminal misbehavior, violence, or hot-headedness, and his medication and substance use. If he had a criminal record for burglary, was inclined to be violent and hot-headed, and was on meth, the controversy would take a different course.


None of that matters to the court.

You don’t get a legal right to murder someone because they didn’t live a perfect life.

Sorry, no dice

McMichaels were playing cop here, they had no right to what they did to that man. Now he is dead and hopefully they server three decades in a cage.


89 posted on 05/10/2020 10:23:14 PM PDT by Trump.Deplorable
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To: rexthecat

They were guilty of stupidity in trying to chase a fleeing felon, rather than following at a distance.

The “jogger” was a burglar. Why do we just hear that he was a football player in high school, and hear nothing about what his current employment was?


90 posted on 05/10/2020 10:23:17 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others)
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To: Rockingham
Two potentially crucial fact issues: Aubery's reputation and record as to criminal misbehavior, violence, or hot- headedness, and his medication and substance use.

While those "crucial fact issues" might count in the "Court of Public Opinion", they most certainly will not be allowed in a Court-of-Law to be presented to a Jury.

Only the immediate facts of incident are allowable and it is clear that the McMichaels were the initiators of the confrontation. A claim of self-defense evaporates in those conditions.

Aubrey's deliberate attack, clearly recorded on video, eliminates his presumption of "self-defense" and changes the event into "mutual combat".

A charge of "Involuntary Manslaughter" would likely result in a conviction. A charge of "Murder" most likely would result in an acquittal or mistrial.

91 posted on 05/10/2020 10:58:01 PM PDT by flamberge (The wheels keep turning)
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To: SauronOfMordor
The “jogger” was a burglar.

The "jogger" was a felon, convicted of robbery, and was in violation of his parole. There was a warrant out for his arrest. Perhaps that was why he reacted so violently to the McMichaels confrontation.

And yes, I believe he was probably casing the neighborhood for possible burglary opportunities. That might not quite deserve a death sentence by any reasonable judgement. Although I bet the residents are happier that he won't be back.

92 posted on 05/10/2020 11:34:40 PM PDT by flamberge (The wheels keep turning)
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To: flamberge
The "jogger" was a felon, convicted of robbery, and was in violation of his parole. There was a warrant out for his arrest.

If you have a link to that, send it over. Thanks.

93 posted on 05/10/2020 11:56:14 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

he probably works there already


94 posted on 05/11/2020 12:23:22 AM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Yep


95 posted on 05/11/2020 12:29:06 AM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Trump.Deplorable
So, assuming the worst, you believe that it would be inadmissible as evidence if the defendants wanted to show at trial that Aubery, the supposed victim, had a felony conviction for burglary, was violating a probation condition in his trespass at the construction site, was notorious for being hotheaded, and that his toxicology report showed active user levels of meth and cocaine in his system?

I think that most or all of that (if true) would come in to explain Aubery's motive or intent in the way he responded to an armed citizen's arrest, which Aubery reacted to with a physical attack that turned lethal against him.

Moreover, read carefully, most evidence codes permit character or trait evidence in criminal cases. For example, the much-copied Federal Evidence Code generally prohibits character and trait evidence in Rule 404, but with criminal cases being an exception in which "a defendant may offer evidence of an alleged victim’s pertinent trait." A similar provision in Georgia's evidence code also makes admissible "evidence of a pertinent trait of character of the alleged victim of the crime offered by an accused."

96 posted on 05/11/2020 12:47:21 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Rockingham

Side note: The McMichaels are no bonded and (at the moment) GA is not conducting jury trials again until 2021.

Which Circuit do you practice in?


97 posted on 05/11/2020 1:12:36 AM PDT by Noamie
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To: Noamie

I gave up active practice due to major health problems. The interest in law remains though, tugging at my sleeve from time to time.


98 posted on 05/11/2020 1:15:09 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Rockingham

Well, God bless you. I hope your health improves.


99 posted on 05/11/2020 1:24:26 AM PDT by Noamie
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To: Noamie

Thank you.


100 posted on 05/11/2020 1:34:50 AM PDT by Rockingham
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