Posted on 05/01/2020 6:26:05 AM PDT by USA Conservative
Sorry, but you need to know your history a bit better.. It was norm for men to swim naked, one of the reasons women were not allowed in health clubs etc, or if they were at only dedicated times.. Do a little research, you might learn something.
And as I said elsewhere this is a non issue, unless he was harassing them the fact he swam naked is not an issue. The Secret Services Job is to Protect, NOT to tell the person how to live, they are not there to behave how their bodyguards wish them to behave. If the female SS agents were uncomfortable guarding someone who likes to swim naked, that’s their issue, not his... and they should have requested transfer.
This is a non issue.
When you have people around you 24/7, you live your life, they are there to protect you, not for you to behave differently because they are there...
Fact he liked to swim nude is a non starter... If he was harassing them, then by all means its an issue, but if he liked to swim laps in his pool or somewhere naked while they were on duty, and they had an issue with it, that’s on them not Biden.
Biden has so many real issues, but this ain’t one of them.
I think that’s what the ‘woke’ refer to as a hostile work environment.
"It's like a penis, only smaller."
So Joe’s a bank walker, what’s the big deal?
you rang?
I’m with you. Let him be for now. After he’s on the ballot in all 50 states, then go merciless.
Your point, that bringing this up might make Joe Biden more sympathetic or might distract from other issues, is stupid.
Most normal people will think he at least has issues with judgment, or lack of consideration for others...at best. Many people, including me, will conclude he has sexual issues.
Sometimes, always being the contrarian just makes you wrong.
Putting a snapping turtle into Joe Biden’s pool would have cured him of swimming naked.
Joe: “Yeah man, it was these 2 only. I suppose I coulda used 3 and then it would be the thing the younger guys joke about...”
The stories about LBJ's bad behavior that I've heard concern people much higher in the status hierarchy. I'm not an LBJ scholar, but I suspect much of this behavior was a twisted dominance game. He would ritually humiliate his targets, mostly (I suspect) people he suspected of thinking themselves intellectually or socially superior to LBJ: e.g., a Member of Congress or cabinet member or intellectual policy wonk who might look down on Johnson as a crude embarrassment. That's not an ego game he would have felt any need to play with the support staff. With them, I suspect he had an open, bantering relationship (not unlike Bill Clinton when Hillary wasn't around and when they weren't engaged in screaming matches).
I wish someone would write a good book on this subject. Not so many years ago, many people (especially liberals) would be surprised when Jesse Helms and Paul Wellstone annually topped the "most liked" or "nicest Senator" lists. Lefties always imagined Helms as a fire breathing monster. They were always surprised to find out that he was the Senator who knew the names of the elevator operators, the "walk and talk" ladies dishing out food in the Senate cafeteria, and the Capitol Police guy at the front door. Helms not only knew their names; he often asked about their wives and kids. He took care to know people he didn't need to know. Wellstone was the same way.
Sun Rises In East.
I see the distinction you make, and I understood the context you said it in.
As an aside, I always found LBJ to be an interesting subject. He was well known for his various “arts of persuasion”, some funny, some not so funny.
He was known to give people (who he was trying to sway to vote a given way) what was called “the treatment”.
He would get right up in their faces, his nose literally an inch away, jawboning at them the entire time with his eyes and eyebrows going up, down, and all around...apparently, not many people could stand up well to it.
But personally, I found him a misguided, tragic person not equal to the task at hand. I don’t think he was evil, even if I think his misguided polices were evil. I think he was in over his head in Vietnam, and he couldn’t subject the North Vietnamese to his “treatment” to get his way.
I remember people being horrified that he picked his beagles up by the ears, but it made me laugh...it was something a good old boy would have done in front of his friends, but Johnson apparently couldn’t discriminate between friends and the press.
I have always viewed the way people treat those under them in a chain of command or station in life as a mark of their quality. People who treat servants and people under them as serfs are despicable, and Hillary was clearly one of those.
They say Bill Clinton was fairly genial with the help, which I would expect, because he always came across as one of those people who needed to be liked.
I remember that. It was just old plagiarist Joe stealing LBJ’s shtick. Biden has forever had to steal other’s words, ideas and mannerisms because he is just a schmuck with no substance. When he isn’t presenting other’s deeds and words as his own he spouts nonsense from his fantasies.
Hmmm... Do you suppose that a nude moochelle ever swam in his pool with him?
Theodore Green was about 90 years old when he got "The Johnson Treatment." It's strange and fascinating that somebody born when Andrew Johnson was president was in the Senate until the year JFK was inaugurated and lived until Lyndon Johnson was president, but it's not so different now: Thurmond, Byrd, Inouye, Grassley, Feinstein.
You betcha!
In August of '16 I attended a Trump rally in New Hampshire.When it was over I was one of the first to reach the exits because I had a long drive home.When I got to the exit I found that the Secret Service had sealed it so that Trump could have a "clean getaway" (IOW,for security reasons).
While waiting for the doors to open I was about 3 feet from a Secret Service agent.I caught his attention and asked him if the stories about ILLary abusing agents were true.He didn't say a word...or shake or nod his head..but he did give a big smile which said "you bet your sweet bippy they're true".
Rats see those who protect them...as well as many,many others...as inferior beings.
That said, he's still a creep.
That is absolutely hilarious that you found that sequence of images so quickly!
It kind of demonstrates the point, right in his face, backing him into a corner...
Ha!
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