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To: sphinx; Jess Kitting

I see the distinction you make, and I understood the context you said it in.

As an aside, I always found LBJ to be an interesting subject. He was well known for his various “arts of persuasion”, some funny, some not so funny.

He was known to give people (who he was trying to sway to vote a given way) what was called “the treatment”.

He would get right up in their faces, his nose literally an inch away, jawboning at them the entire time with his eyes and eyebrows going up, down, and all around...apparently, not many people could stand up well to it.

But personally, I found him a misguided, tragic person not equal to the task at hand. I don’t think he was evil, even if I think his misguided polices were evil. I think he was in over his head in Vietnam, and he couldn’t subject the North Vietnamese to his “treatment” to get his way.

I remember people being horrified that he picked his beagles up by the ears, but it made me laugh...it was something a good old boy would have done in front of his friends, but Johnson apparently couldn’t discriminate between friends and the press.

I have always viewed the way people treat those under them in a chain of command or station in life as a mark of their quality. People who treat servants and people under them as serfs are despicable, and Hillary was clearly one of those.

They say Bill Clinton was fairly genial with the help, which I would expect, because he always came across as one of those people who needed to be liked.


53 posted on 05/01/2020 10:54:45 AM PDT by rlmorel (The Coronavirus itself will not burn down humanity. But we may burn ourselves down to be rid of it.)
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To: rlmorel
He would get right up in their faces, his nose literally an inch away, jawboning at them the entire time with his eyes and eyebrows going up, down, and all around...apparently, not many people could stand up well to it.

Theodore Green was about 90 years old when he got "The Johnson Treatment." It's strange and fascinating that somebody born when Andrew Johnson was president was in the Senate until the year JFK was inaugurated and lived until Lyndon Johnson was president, but it's not so different now: Thurmond, Byrd, Inouye, Grassley, Feinstein.

56 posted on 05/01/2020 11:17:07 AM PDT by x
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