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Freeper advice: Brainstorm safe ways to return office workers
4/11/20 | Raycpa

Posted on 04/11/2020 9:20:26 AM PDT by Raycpa

How about some brainstorming on how to reduce risk for office workers to return to work if not able to telecommute.

How about splitting group of employees into high risk and low risk categories and bring back low risk employees that are younger and have no preexisting conditions.

Then split the returning group in shifts so that some workers work one day while others work another day. This would reduce the transmission rate by half.

Also use testing to determine who is immune and let them come back full time.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: coronavanity; coronavirus; covid19; vanity
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To: MrEdd

Fire everyone who is diabetic, prediabetic, obese, a cancer survivor, or over seventy if people deciding on their own whether to take a risk or not bothers you. Then go back to work.


This will reduce the ultimate number of employee deaths you have but won’t affect how much the virus spreads within your workplace


41 posted on 04/11/2020 10:17:23 AM PDT by ChronicMA
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To: Raycpa
I’m a small business owner myself, and I have some suggestions even though my operation is very different (I use only contractors who work outside the office):

1. If I was in your shoes my inclination would be to operate as close to normal as possible. Let your employees know that they have the option of taking protective measures on their own (working remotely, staggered hours, wearing face masks, etc.), but I would not insist on it. I would not even ENCOURAGE it, because I think it gives the wrong signal about the safety of your work place.

2. Make arrangements to have the office cleaned and sanitized more frequently than normal.

3. Before you do anything ... Contact your insurance broker and have a frank conversation with him about the insurance protection you have (or need) in the event someone gets sick and sues the company. I’m not 100% sure if this scenario is covered under business liability insurance, office premises coverage, an umbrella coverage, or a new rider on your existing policy. In some states you may even be indemnified under worker’s compensation coverage.

I’ll check back in later after I see some more replies, just in case I get any new ideas after reading them.

42 posted on 04/11/2020 10:19:26 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And somewhere in the darkness ... the gambler, he broke even.")
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To: Raycpa

IP phone system and remote desktop

Why have offices? Seriously, if you don’t have customers visiting the site and everything is done over the phone, why have offices?


43 posted on 04/11/2020 10:23:06 AM PDT by Trump.Deplorable
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To: ChronicMA

If they get over it, now have immunity, and thus won’t missing work because of it then my workplace becomes better.


44 posted on 04/11/2020 10:24:44 AM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: Raycpa

45 posted on 04/11/2020 10:30:09 AM PDT by Libloather (Why do climate change hoax deniers live in mansions on the beach?)
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To: Raycpa
Have everyone take 10,000 IU of vitamin D3 every day. Hand out 2 pills (5,000 each) at the door on the way in. Watch them take the pills, just to be sure (most people have trouble remembering a new medication regimen, event with the best of intentions).

There is an article on NIH by a Canadian physician (Dr. Gerry Schwalfenberg) who works in nursing homes. He has developed a protocol for reducing flu like illness among his patients. This should be tried against the corona virus in US hospitals:

"A colleague of mine and I have introduced vitamin D at doses that have achieved greater than 100 nmol/L in most of our patients for the past number of years, and we now see very few patients in our clinics with the flu or influenzalike illness. In those patients who do have influenza, we have treated them with the vitamin D hammer, as coined by my colleague. This is a 1-time 50 000 IU dose of vitamin D3 or 10 000 IU 3 times daily for 2 to 3 days. The results are dramatic, with complete resolution of symptoms in 48 to 72 hours. One-time doses of vitamin D at this level have been used safely and have never been shown to be toxic. We urgently need a study of this intervention. The cost of vitamin D is about a penny for 1000 IU, so this treatment costs less than a dollar."

Vitamin D for influenza

There is a presentation by Dr. Robert P Heaney on the healthful effects of adequate vitamin D levels:

Vitamin D Sunshine Optimal Health: Putting it all Together

Coronavirus can be Prevented - Vitamin D Solution

D is for Debacle - The Crucial Story of Vitamin D and Human Health

There are NIH articles going back years about Vitamin D3 being effective against the flu. It is also known that most people have a vitamin D3 deficiency. But there are millions to be made in developing vaccines, and even more to be made in creating a panic.

If you do some research, you will find articles by government-mongers warning of "vitamin D toxicity". This is not a problem, unless you take extremely large doses:

Vitamin D Toxicity Rare in People Who Take Supplements, Mayo Clinic Study Finds
46 posted on 04/11/2020 10:31:43 AM PDT by Ragnar54 (Obama replaced Osama as America's worst enemy and Al Qaeda's financier)
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To: Alberta's Child

Leave shoes at the door.

Take temps at the door.

No common food.

No meetings.

No printed materials.


47 posted on 04/11/2020 10:32:19 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Teflonic

Very interesting.


48 posted on 04/11/2020 10:39:17 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Vermont Lt

He last three seem reasonable. I’m not sure how the first one would be effective at all. The second one is an absolute non-starter for me — as either the employer OR an employee. I’m not a doctor, and I’m not making a medical diagnosis related to someone’s work situation.


49 posted on 04/11/2020 10:40:09 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And somewhere in the darkness ... the gambler, he broke even.")
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To: Meatspace

h(ighly) r(idicules) is over rated and need to go back to being Payroll. They have created an all too power hungry nightmare unto itself that needs to be SLAPPED BACK INTO REALITY !!!

I went to a mandatory class about Habits. The speaker said that it takes 21 days to form a Habit like Sleep (the example that was given). I worked in the Water Treatment Plant. Our schedule was 12 hour shifts, 7am —7pm days and 7pm — 7am, 3 nights on, 2 nights off then 2 nights on and 3 nights off and THEN every month We swapped Day and Nights !!!

So Me being Me, I raised My hand and when called on I asked if they looked at Our Time Sheets ? Then I had to explain what the Water Treatment Plant Operators Schedule was.

The next day I was called into My Stupidvisor’s Office and asked “What did You do yesterday to the h(ighly) r(idicules) Lady ?” So after a few seconds it sank in and I told Him what happened and added on that I had asked a legitimate question, and told Him what I said after raising My hand and being acknowledged before I spoke.

He started to grin a bit and said that you can’t be asking tough questions like that because they can’t comprehend multilevel questions like that. He added that they are a bit slow if the idea is not from inside their own heads.


50 posted on 04/11/2020 10:42:18 AM PDT by mabarker1 ((Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! A fraud, a hypocrite, a liar. I'm a member of Congress !!!!)
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To: Alberta's Child
Contact your insurance broker and have a frank conversation with him about the insurance protection you have

Good advice. I haven;t thought about liability.

51 posted on 04/11/2020 10:43:58 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Raycpa

If you convert the conference room to an office, that gives you four offices. Assume you still need DR as your private office. LR as front office is likely a good size; maybe it’s possible to relocate an office there.

I’m thinking split everyone up for maximum space between wordspaces. If you can’t do that sufficiently, you might add a second shift to give them each more space. Minimal contact between employees. I’d make each responsible for wiping down their areas, phones and keyboards. Wear masks if possible.

The coffee area and restroom are likely your biggest issues. I’d keep wipes stocked in those areas. Likely enough people will wipe things down before touching that it won’t be a problem. And I hope it goes without saying but you might want to post Wash Your Hands signs as a constant reminder.

You might want to limit public coming in or at least contain them within a limited space.

You’re a good boss to be thinking of this and I wish you all the best going forward!


52 posted on 04/11/2020 10:44:47 AM PDT by LateBoomer
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To: Trump.Deplorable
if you don’t have customers visiting the site and everything is done over the phone, why have offices?

My staff is working from home while two of us are at office. I estimate that productivity is at about 70% of what it is in office. That 30% is about most of my profit,

53 posted on 04/11/2020 10:46:12 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Alberta's Child

The first one is because people spit. Changing over to slippers that are office only would keep the “crap” out of the office.


54 posted on 04/11/2020 10:47:37 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Raycpa
Way too complicated.

Check each employee for a temperature scan on the forehead and the ones who you don't like make them do it up the rear anally ...

If they have a temp above normal. Send them home or to your local Congressional office,

55 posted on 04/11/2020 10:48:29 AM PDT by Popman
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To: Raycpa
...into high risk and low risk

You heard it yesterday...POC are high-risk....so good luck with that...
56 posted on 04/11/2020 10:49:32 AM PDT by stylin19a (2016 - Best.Election.Of.All.Times.Ever.In.The.History.Of.Ever)
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To: LateBoomer

I hadn’t thought about converting conference room. It is obvious now that you mention it


57 posted on 04/11/2020 10:50:12 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Raycpa

...ways to return...

1) Get in car, drive to work.
2) Bike or walk.


58 posted on 04/11/2020 10:50:58 AM PDT by sasquatch
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To: sasquatch

Some of the staff is totally freaked out. Psychology is important.


59 posted on 04/11/2020 10:53:12 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Raycpa

Unlock the door.


60 posted on 04/11/2020 10:53:41 AM PDT by Fledermaus (Might as well cut your leg off to cure a headache. Destroy America because of a flu virus strain.)
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