Posted on 04/07/2020 3:28:01 PM PDT by CheshireTheCat
1) Data shows a dramatic spike in “Influenza Like Illness” in certain states as early as November of 2019; 2) A number of states appear to have already experienced an ILI and made it through to a more stable ILI footing for this time of year; 3) The US Military participated in the 2019 Military World Games in Wuhan, China between October 18 and October 27 of 2019. Their chartered flights arrive and depart from Seattle-Tacoma International Airport; 4) Washington is one of the earliest states to show a spike in ILI, corresponding with the incubation period should the virus have been introduced as the military traveled through Washington to other destinations.
(Excerpt) Read more at uncoverdc.com ...
Absolutely! Simply test for antibodies in everyone who complained of a cold or more severe symptoms from October on........
The antibody tests will tell the tale! ... except can’t pinpoint exactly when someone had it, but I think statistically self reporting by those with a fluey commie feeling thing once in the past 3 - 4 months is likely to have been the time.
“Wouldn’t they just think that an “influenze-like illness” was just this year’s mutation of influenza?”
That depends. If doctors or hospitals send for a lab test, the lab tests are normally looking for all the different virus families familiar to medicine as causing “seasonal flu” cases. The annual mutations do not detract from the analysis, because enough of what is common to a virus, through all its mutations, remains.
As the report said, the mystery cases reported to the CDC had lab tests that did not identify any of the usual suspects, in spite of the symptoms being common to ILI.
The spikes in Texas and Washington in late 2019 in particular suggests a spike in ILI (influenza linked illness) with a high proportion of those cases NOT identifiable to the usual seasonal flu bugs. THAT only would suggest quite a number of cases were related to “somthine else” and if not Covid-19 then what?
The questions deserve official investigation.
They did a test like this in Russia a couple of days ago -- random people not supposed to be exposed to the virus at all. 5% had antibodies. What this means is not clear, but perhaps that the virus was all over the world for months, but did not go exponential for whatever reasons.
Russian sample was small (~300 tests), and of course errors are possible... but most likely not.
We do know that the virus was around Washington state for at least two months.. but there is no exponential growth of cases there still. And it did not go exponential in Japan... which is generally a very crowded place. Why?
My family members in California had cases like they had not seen before, scattered from late December into late February. Now they’d really like a Covid-19 antibody test.
I thought before hand U.S. participation was stupid and a mistake. I know it was.
Go back to October and see how many people had merely a cold or more severely, pneumonia that will most likely be the Covid 19............
Thank you for pointing out what should be obvious to the MSM and the rest of the Trump haters. All these stories are being generated to allow the Trump Failed to Act Narrative to grow exponentially.
Thanks, I was going to ask that exact question.
My friend had something in late December. He got the flu test and it was negative. All they could tell him was that he had a flu-like illness, but they didn't know what it was.
Reports like this come from everywhere and some people report symptoms very similar to Covid.
Not a proof of anything until they are tested for antibodies.--but yes, a hint that the virus was around much longer than we think.
And no, we are not on the decline side of it, not for another 10-12 days in New York, and even longer elsewhere.
The real trick, the real reason for needing massive testing after we have got hump day in the rear-view mirror is that you need thorough and accurate detection, track and trace once you restart the economy. The potential for reemergence of exponential growth and explosion to 2M or 20M cases is still there. The solution is to track it down every time it happens and prevent it from going anywhere, much less sending it around the world on passenger jets like the CHICOMS did.
I posted elsewhere that I am almost sure I had it. Symptoms checked off almost the whole list. After reviewing text messages, mine began on 16 November.
You can only do that without creating a disaster if you have accurate widespread testing coupled with track and trace capabilities.
I have heard that some health care professionals in Anchorage are speculating that a particularly nasty flu that swept through there in November/December may have been the Wuhan Flu.
Pretty sure I had it in early January... I knew it was different than the typical flu and for some odd reason decided to take the Zicam I had on the shelf for when I feel that first tinge of a cold... It only lasted about 3 or 4 days and luckily, I slept in the spare room and did not infect my wife who has COPD. I will be taking an antibody test when it is developed to check and see.
My son and his family were sick in December and they all got tested for the Flu. His wife and daughter were both positive for Influenza but his test came back negative, he wants the test to see if he had it too.
Also, my niece is a respiratory therapist and travels the world speaking about her field. In early November she was so sick for 2 solid weeks that she thought she was going to die after just returning from speaking in China. She too described it at the time as “like a bad case of the flu but different”. We never were in contact with her though, so we did not get it from her.
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