Posted on 04/04/2020 2:40:09 PM PDT by ocrp1982
In this Vlog Bill plays a video made by a frontline ER Doctor in NYC. He says the standard ventilator treatment being used across the world is not helping any of his patients. In fact, he says it's making things worse. And, he goes into detail as to his observations. And, then pleads for more frontline doctors to speak out.
[[[Trump just spent several moments in the daily covid-19 briefing highlighting the potential of HCQ/Z-Pak. Presuming your report is accurate, it seems that there is something that is amiss somewhere in NY (jmho).]]]
This will turn out to be the biggest scandal associated with the treatment of this disease. Something tells me there is more to the picture here behind the scenes. I bet it involves huge money and egos.
> My understanding is that most hospitals have HCQ for patients. If you’re not hospitalized, your doctor can prescribe it but good luck finding a pharmacy that has it.
Hmmm... aha, so the distinction may have been that your friend’s mother fell into a covid-19 victim condition ‘band’ (for lack of a better term) which was that although she tested positive for covid-19, her symptoms were not severe enough at the time to require ongoing hospitalization, at which time she was discharged from the hospital and at the same time precluded from receiving HCQ since she was no longer in the hospital.
If my restatement is close to an accurate description of the current situation, however, it seems to me that it may still be a problem, because (ignoring the medical and local regulatory issues for a moment) Trump mentioned that he might take HCQ as an elective prophylactic as if that option were available to the general public, and Trump himself has been diagnosed as covid-19 negative.
This seems to be a disconnect between the federal leadership and the actual situation as experienced at USA covid-19 “ground zero,” which IIRC is still Queens Borough... (??)
I wish the doc had given some suggestions...hyperbaric chambers?...frequent blood transfusions?...dialysis .....
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I’m no doc but it sound to me like the alveoli are paralyzed and unable to open and close as they should to move oxygen into the hemoglobin and remove CO2. If this is the case, no amount of air pressure will help. The approach must be early intervention with HQC, zinc, and Z-pak, but the notorious N.Y governor still stands by his executive order banning HQC. Did you hear Trump today saying he is going to talk to his doc to see if he could take HQC as a prophylactic therapy? No one asked a question about Cuomo’s ban.
this doc is on to something....basically these pts die because of organ failure from lack of oxygen not pneumonia....
I like your suggestion of hyperbaric oxygen.
Not for quite some time
Thank-you
> Did you have a script?
In my (limited) experience one needs a prescription from a doctor in the state in which the pharmacy is located, which in this case would be Pennsylvania.
So I would ask, in addition, from which state was the prescription issued, by a doctor from which state, and how was that done if the mother lives in Queens.
IOW does the current regulatory situation in NYC encourage some COVID-19 victims to cross state lines to seek out of state treatment for certain drugs which are allowed at the FDA level for their situation? Does this conflict with any shelter in place policies that may also be in effect for NYC/NY? Who enforces the NY shelter in place and what is their policy on this type of situation?
Your friend needs to spread this far and wide his governor is killing people!!!
Can you give us the Readers Digest version, please?
With all these online doctors for medical marijuana and viagra, there must be one by now who would prescribe chloroquine.
Correct. Upon returning from the hospital, she begged her PCP for the HCQ prescription.
The hospitals are keeping it for patients who are critical. The supply is too limited.
https://ny.curbed.com/2020/3/20/21187022/coronavirus-new-york-shutdown-shelter-in-place
“Another component of the PAUSE order is “Matilda’s Law”—named for Cuomo’s mother—which sets out different rules for New Yorkers over the age of 70 or who are otherwise considered vulnerable to COVID-19. They’re discouraged from leaving their homes at all, save for solo exercise; the order recommends that they also pre-screen any visitors to their homes, and to wear a surgical mask when around other people.”
So... is the net effect of regulatory policies currently in place in NY such that people over 70 are essentially precluded from seeking and obtaining HCQ treatment?
HCQ costs $0.01/tab. What is going on??
So sorry to hear about your friend’s parents.
Happy to hear mom is doing better.
Can someone explain exactly what is/is not happening - with the Trump touted HQC/Zpack protocol - in NY?
My mom and I regularly get prescriptions from NY doctors filled at NJ pharmacies.
So I read that HCQ is a zinc ionifier that allows the cells to absorb the zinc. And it’s the zinc that stops the virus from replicating.
So I looked up natural zinc ionifiers and Quercetin is one.
Quercetin can be bought as a supplement, but it’s also found in the white stuff under Orange peel.
So I’m thinking zinc supplements plus quercetin supplements may give us some protection.
Hmm.
It almost sounds like a bio-weapon. But that’s not possible.
The MSM said so.
I take C and D also. Very important.
Thanks! I guess I should read up.
"Dr"Cuomo signed a law about a week or two ago. HCQ will only be given to people who are in the trial AND he gets to choose who will be in the trial.
So, yes, NYers have to go out of State to get it.
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