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Of Toilet Paper and .22 Ammunition
AmmoLand ^ | 20 March, 2020 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 03/22/2020 6:32:41 AM PDT by marktwain

Empty Shelves at Yuma Walmart March 18, 2020 Courtesy Dean Weingarten

Those in the gun culture can recognize the run on toilet paper as similar to the .22 ammunition bubble we experienced in President Obama's second term.

Toilet paper, like .22 ammunition, takes very specialized machinery to produce in bulk at historically low prices. People became accustomed to it being plentiful, cheap, and easily available. Capital investment has been tuned by the market to meet the demand. There is only a small surplus capacity.

Then, an event, unexpected by most, happened. People worried if they would have enough; with .22 ammunition, people who had been satisfied with 50 rounds wanted a thousand; the number of people who wanted much more than usual cleared out the .22 ammunition shelves in short order.

Small scale entrepreneurs bought all they could in bulk, and peddled the product for 5-10 times what they purchased it for, on the Internet. This caused severe shortages for those who kept only a small amount on hand.

We see the same thing happening with toilet paper. People are concerned they will be caught at home without it. The shelves have been cleared. The manufacturers are running their machines on three shifts, 24 hours a day. From cnn.com:

They're faced with tradeoffs. Many were already operating their manufacturing facilities 24/7 prior to the pandemic. Now, some are limiting their facilities to essential workers and contractors. It's unclear, however, what they will do in the event that those workers get sick. 

“If you ask me why everyone is grabbing toilet paper, I can't really explain it,” said Tom Sellars, CEO of Sellars Absorbent Materials in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. His company is a processor and converter of paper and related products. “It's not like


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1 posted on 03/22/2020 6:32:41 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Hoarders gonna hoard.


2 posted on 03/22/2020 6:35:32 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: marktwain

If I don’t have enough .22 ammo then the end of the world is gonna be worse than I thought. Long rifle. Hollow point. Bird shot.


3 posted on 03/22/2020 6:45:38 AM PDT by HighSierra5
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To: marktwain

Heretofore, known as “Asswipes”


4 posted on 03/22/2020 6:46:14 AM PDT by joshua c
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To: crusty old prospector

“ Hoarders gonna hoard.”
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Yeh, but the supply problem is not at manufacturers or the supply chain to retailers. The problem is as you correctly is with hoarders. Just check out Craig’s List and EBay. Retailers need to limit purchases of TP and other paper products to one package per day and spread stocking shelves across at least two or three times per day. Control point should be at the check-out. Refuse to allow excessive purchases. I sat in front of local Costco past Thursday at 9:00am, doors opened at 10:00, by then the line was along the length of building probably at least 200 people. I’m 75 and walk with a cane so sat in my truck to see when line would go down, shortly after opening I started seeing shoppers coming out with two, three, even four of the huge packages of toilet paper. Obviously, resellers as that’s enough TP to last an average family for over a year. Costco can mange this better. They should be embarrassed by their inaction. As for hoarders and resellers they should be booked and fined.


5 posted on 03/22/2020 6:50:36 AM PDT by snoringbear (,W,E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: marktwain

I’ve decided that the gestapo won’t be raiding our homes for the guns. They are going to raid the homes looking for TP hoarders and will confiscate for re-distributing to the masses.


6 posted on 03/22/2020 6:51:26 AM PDT by Old Yeller (Auto-correct has become my worst enema.)
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To: marktwain

As far as ammo. If it gets that bad, just take the ammo off of the dead bodies.


7 posted on 03/22/2020 6:52:13 AM PDT by Old Yeller (Auto-correct has become my worst enema.)
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To: joshua c

Are we soon to see the threads below?

Neighborhood cats disappearing.

Can you get coronavirus from eating cat?

People in Missouri who have run out of TP find they get a bad case of chigger and seed ticks when scooting on the ground like a dog.


8 posted on 03/22/2020 6:58:24 AM PDT by oldasrocks (Heavily Medicated for your Protection.)
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To: crusty old prospector

Horders?

No Black Market pukes are stockpiling expecting to sell it a roll at a time and make a huge profit.

Sick crap.


9 posted on 03/22/2020 7:01:45 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: snoringbear

Costco has now set limits on purchase of TP (and others).

Some of those people you saw buying hoards of TP tried to return them to Costco when they found they had too much or couldn’t get rid of it. Costco refused returns on such products.

Costco restocking TP. You will see N95’s available in a month or so.


10 posted on 03/22/2020 7:03:52 AM PDT by Cold Heart (.)
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To: marktwain

You can have my TP when you pry it from my cold dead hands


11 posted on 03/22/2020 7:05:39 AM PDT by Pollard (If you don't understand what I typed, you haven't read the classics.)
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To: oldasrocks

Used to be in Peachland NC, talking 75 years or more ago, the old folks would buy rabbits from the younger hunting guys. They wanted it dressed but with one foot still on it with the hide, to be certain it wasnt a cat.

Old tales you hear from towns with a population of less than 600.


12 posted on 03/22/2020 7:08:18 AM PDT by weezel
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To: snoringbear

I disagree -— this is one of those “government, save us” things.

TP is like any other item on the market in a free market economy. Supply and demand controls the price. Even if we have middle men on ebay and craigslist, what’s the difference between normal middle men/distributors?

In a free market price signals are everything.

The only reason the “official” middle men (distributors) aren’t doing it themselves is simple: government intervention. Otherwise it would be on the costco shelves for $400/bale.

This pricing would control the flow of TP. Demand would quickly dry up at that price, and then the price would fall to something not quite what we could call “normal”, but what the market would bear to keep inventory moving.

The law currently is such that this crazy behavior is being extended until the point where we will be starting new paper mills and chopping down forests!

Welcome to the corrupting hand of government.


13 posted on 03/22/2020 7:08:50 AM PDT by Aqua225 (Realist)
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To: oldasrocks

I read last night that cats cooked in hedgehog grease were used to treat influenza outbreaks in the middle ages.


14 posted on 03/22/2020 7:09:06 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: marktwain

Bought a box of 375 rounds at a pawn shop yesterday for $13.00. I’m counting that as a win for me and a loss for whoever did their pricing.


15 posted on 03/22/2020 7:11:08 AM PDT by cdcdawg ("Americanism, not Globalism, will be our credo." DJT 2016)
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To: marktwain

Back during the summer of the year 22s were so hard to get, I switched to doing all my rifle practice with the AK, because there was plenty of that caliber in Steelcase.


16 posted on 03/22/2020 7:12:55 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: marktwain

17 posted on 03/22/2020 7:13:48 AM PDT by real saxophonist (Norovirus survivor; Hey Coronavirus - Bring it!)
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To: joshua c; marktwain
Heretofore, known as “Asswipes”

On the plus side, if there wasn't a TP shortage, we'd miss out on these gems from the Amazon review section for Charmin:

5.0 out of 5 stars BUY THIS PRODUCT!!!!!!
Reviewed in the United States on March 16, 2020
This is, without a doubt, the best brand of $h!t tickets, striking paper, base line cleaner, undercarriage wipes, or
whatever else that you call toilet paper, in the market! Scratch that (which this product WON'T do), in this reality!
When I tell people that if you don't any rules in your life you must integrate this into your life. The rule states, "You
are NEVER too poor to afford good toilet paper." And this is the product I mean.
All it takes for me is 3 good swipes with only 5-6 squares (depending on how bad the mud butt situation is down
there, if it feels like Carolina Clay, go at least 6) and my brown eye is as clean as a whistle. No, really, 1st time I used
it, the toothless wonder who talks $h!t actually whistled....it was weird....but felt oddly good. And the best part is,
my finger hasn't gone through the toilet paper in mid wipe yet!
BUY THIS PRODUCT!!!!

LINK
18 posted on 03/22/2020 7:14:54 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Fact: Gun control laws kill innocents.)
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To: Kirkwood

Thanks, I was looking for that recipe.


19 posted on 03/22/2020 7:14:57 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Hi! I'm Joe Biden and I forgot this message.)
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To: Texas Fossil

The only problem is that the rate of consumption is still the same. Unless people develop the scours.


20 posted on 03/22/2020 7:15:56 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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