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Time to Dust Off Survivalist Plans? (vanity)
(none) ^ | Jan 27, 2020 | BobL

Posted on 01/27/2020 5:09:43 AM PST by BobL

Back about a decade ago with the housing meltdown of 2008, followed by our lovely leader for the next 8 years, many of us started thinking about what life would be like after 'it' happened. Thankfully 'it' never happened. But one of our concerns was a pandemic, not just due to the direct suffering it could cause, but the indirect consequences, such as disruption of the food supply and possibly disruption of utilities.

On a disaster scale, I would rate this somewhat in the middle, with hurricanes, earthquakes, and tornadoes being the easiest to deal with, since they're localized, and a large-scale nuclear war being the worst (followed pretty closely by a complete economic meltdown).

But since Trump got elected, I think some of us may have gotten a bit complacent (I certainly did). But now, with many thousands of people still arriving from Asia, and even most of China, and with an identified 'it', perhaps it's time to check our stocks of food, fuel, our water supply plans, and, of course, our Second Amendment compliance status.

Best of luck to all!


TOPICS: Food; Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: coronavirus; prepper; preppers; shtf; survivalist
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To: Vermont Lt
OR.....if you have a lot of guns, you could hunt up the nearest Mormon family and take their 2 year supply that they keep on hand.

;^)
21 posted on 01/27/2020 5:41:19 AM PST by Karma_Sherab
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To: eartick

A N95 mask will filter out viruses. Although I think in one test of 900 people, only 25% had a proper fit.

However, the mask is also a reminder not to touch your face with your hands, so it is helpful.

Goggles are important too. The surface tension of the moisture on your eyeballs will attract the small particles of virus suspended for hours in the air. And then take them a short distance to the nasal passages.

I have to go to Costco tomorrow. I’m not sure I’m up for the face mask and swim goggles yet. Maybe I’ll bring them with me.

My son saw a person downtown (Seattle) that had a full face respirator on. (Not the most foolish of ideas actually. $200 for a decent one on Amazon).


22 posted on 01/27/2020 5:41:57 AM PST by 21twelve (!)
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To: qwerty1234

“As of Dec 2019, 2400 people have died from the flu and 2.5 Million people where infected - and you are worried about the 81 people that have died, mostly in 3rd world hell-holes living in unsanitary conditions?”

You haven’t been to China, lately, I can see. Anyway, the 1918 flu pandemic was a bit nastier than the numbers you list.


23 posted on 01/27/2020 5:42:35 AM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: BobL

>>Anyway, the 1918 flu pandemic was a bit nastier than the numbers you list.

Yes, and how did most people live in 1918? what was the state of medical care? how about the sanitary conditions back then?

Go ahead, panic if it makes you feel better.


24 posted on 01/27/2020 5:45:08 AM PST by qwerty1234
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To: Vermont Lt

Don’t forget antivirals, like honeysuckle tea, which is equal to tamiflu in fighting off viral tuff.
https://www.sciencealert.com/honeysuckle-tea-can-treat-influenza-a-viruses-and-possibly-ebola
Don’t forget that elderberry is related to honeysuckle, and has been used for centuries to fight colds and flu.


25 posted on 01/27/2020 5:45:47 AM PST by BuffaloJack ("Security does not exist in nature. Everything has risk." Henry Savage)
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To: qwerty1234

“Go ahead, panic if it makes you feel better.”

Well, if you think being prepared is ‘panicking’, so be it. A lot of us here are not ready to fully trust the government, nor the medical community, to save us.


26 posted on 01/27/2020 5:47:43 AM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: qwerty1234

So you actually believe that China would put 50+ million people on lockdown over 81 people dead? One doesn’t turn a city of 11 million (and others) into a ghost town over the flu.


27 posted on 01/27/2020 5:48:39 AM PST by 21twelve (!)
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To: Vermont Lt

I would say “WHEN it starts in the US.”

I forgot how to change my tagline. It used to be “Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.”


28 posted on 01/27/2020 5:50:51 AM PST by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful!)
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To: Vermont Lt

“gas for cars or generators”

Many years ago I dabbled into survivalist planning and gave up on trying to save gas for a car simply because we are talking hundreds of gallons for a scenario lasting several months. The problem is where to store it. A worse problem is defending it from the hoards of have-nots. A grave situation is being put in front of a firing squad after you were found guilty of anti-hoarding laws.

Some of these zombie shows, like The Walking Dead, even though fictional drama, do offer some insight as to how things could potentially develop. Small armed groups banding together scavenging whatever they can find and competing with other groups in deadly confrontations might be what would happen.


29 posted on 01/27/2020 5:53:30 AM PST by redfreedom
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To: qwerty1234

We’ll have to see what the fatality rate settles out at; 15% but data is early and suspect. It appears that 4/5 get it when exposed. Virus could mutate but hopefully attenuates.

Looking at some you tube Wuhan looks like a ghost town. If we get that here, economy will tank, deliveries stop and some form of marital law.


30 posted on 01/27/2020 5:54:07 AM PST by grumpygresh (Civil disobedience by jury nullification.)
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To: richardtavor

All my kids have camping water filters. Takes a bit of work, but even puddle water can be made drinkable. Also ordered elderberry, Vitamin D3, hydration mixes and N95 masks for all of them. Yeah - they think I’m nuts!

Although the masks will also be helpful during wildfires next summer.


31 posted on 01/27/2020 5:55:37 AM PST by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful!)
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To: qwerty1234

Just one more bit of evidence that only kooks are mostly left to inhabit what was once a very interesting and intelligent website with actual thought provoking discussion.


32 posted on 01/27/2020 5:56:01 AM PST by Okeydoker
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To: Karma_Sherab
OR.....if you have a lot of guns, you could hunt up the nearest Mormon family and take their 2 year supply that they keep on hand.

I don't like hearing that, not even as a joke. Conservatives are supposed to be the good guys. In any case, my LDS friends are as well armed as I am, and they can shoot.

33 posted on 01/27/2020 5:56:07 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: Pollster1

sorry....my humor is sometimes dark - and I have Mormon friends myself


34 posted on 01/27/2020 5:57:42 AM PST by Karma_Sherab
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To: z3n

If those that work power generating facilities end up sick/dead, the grid will go down eventually.


35 posted on 01/27/2020 5:58:53 AM PST by Hulka
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To: BobL

You mean that everyone does not still have Y2K rice and beans left over.


36 posted on 01/27/2020 5:59:39 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: be-baw

there a lot of Chinese students (many whom, I’m sure, are spies). ................................. LOL, how true, but the highest percentage are not the military type ones, they are everywhere copying what they can, to produce for less. I was a crafter, they loved my display so much they had to take photos of the things I made. A year or 2 later they were exporting copies. The big C came into my life and it didn’t mater anymore, as I didn’t expect to live beyond 6 yrs.. I had no copyrights on anything I made.


37 posted on 01/27/2020 6:00:33 AM PST by Bringbackthedraft ( #ReasonableDemocratsforTrump. Where are you?)
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To: z3n

“Other than the fact that you may have a staffing/personel/support breakdown in a full pandemic panic...”

Yes.

“Do I go into work and maybe get this virus” or

“I’m sick and I need to stay at home” or

“My child (wife, parent) is sick and I need to take care of them.”, or

“With the quarantine I need to stand in line at the store/pharmacy/gas station to get what I need.”


38 posted on 01/27/2020 6:00:55 AM PST by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful!)
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To: 21twelve

From inside China....it seems a bit more serious than a “cold”.

Everybody is trying to contain this without causing a panic that would affect the global economy....

The risk appetite of the global elite decision makers is a good bit higher as long as only peasants and commoners are dying.

https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=aNLJk_1580091920


39 posted on 01/27/2020 6:01:02 AM PST by Lowell1775
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To: BobL

I’m not going to be particularly worried about this coronavirus until it starts actually spreading in the US … if people in the US start catching it from people in the US.

I’ve currently got supplies to last me a couple of weeks right now.

As well as a month of “internal stores”.


40 posted on 01/27/2020 6:01:27 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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