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Crunching the 380 – a ballistics analysis (Part I)
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Posted on 01/22/2020 8:37:07 PM PST by No.6

Part 2 (or maybe 2.1, since the goal of thoroughly showing visualizations got sidetracked by a realization in one and where that led).

This one has some meat in it, not just introduction.

Again, yes, a blog post by me, but again not monetized, so have at it.

This time I've tested the link so if it times out it's Azure being lame (this is their free server, not commercial).


TOPICS: Hobbies; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: 380; ballistics; banglist; firearms
Prior article at this FR link.
1 posted on 01/22/2020 8:37:07 PM PST by No.6
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To: No.6

Still learning to post properly ... this is actually (Part II) but of course I managed to neglect to edit my copy/paste.

Maybe by the end?


2 posted on 01/22/2020 8:37:56 PM PST by No.6
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To: No.6

Don’t apologize for blog posts just because some easily triggered failed blogger snowflake might give you crap for it instead of making a useful contribution of their own. If it is interesting and beneficial information, carry on by all means.


3 posted on 01/22/2020 8:41:30 PM PST by calenel (The Democratic Party is a Criminal Enterprise. It is the Progressive Mafia.)
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To: No.6

For later.


4 posted on 01/22/2020 9:02:05 PM PST by Yogafist
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To: No.6

Thank you for informing us with this one.

I’ve been a fan of both the HydraShock and the Gold Dot.

I mix ‘em in the magazine.

.380 is not a powerful pistol round but it’s one you can have with you always, in all situations.

And 95gr at 900fps in the eye is effective, which is what most .380 pistols are capable of. Especially my Sig.

It will blow a hole out the other side.


5 posted on 01/22/2020 10:39:47 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: No.6
In my pocket right now is a .380 auto. Sometimes I conceal carry a 9mm, but mostly a .380 auto, because of the size of the firearm.

Why can one concealed pocket carry a .380, 9mmMak, or .32 ACP and mot most “higher caliber duty rounds?” Because .380 & 9 mm Mak are sort of the upper end of small blowback pistols.

Pocket carry demands a small light weight hand gun.

Even if some say that the round is “marginal” a marginal round is better than no firearm and that is where the .380 shines.

6 posted on 01/23/2020 2:35:38 AM PST by Robert357
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To: Mariner
I’ve been a fan of both the HydraShock and the Gold Dot.
I mix ‘em in the magazine.

Based on some tests I read about somewhere, we have an additional mix based on the season.
Test's showed the .380 could be performance limited or actually stopped by heavy clothing.
Accordingly, I load my wife's Sig P238 with solids in the winter, for penetration through heavy coats.

We save the high-performance Gold Dots for Spring/Summer/Fall.

Is it necessary? *shrug* - but I'm not willing to find out by having a bad guy keep coming on her after getting shot a couple of times. And she's not outstanding on the range, but good enough. Head shots would be better with this caliber, but I train her for center of mass and double taps.

7 posted on 01/23/2020 4:27:37 AM PST by grobdriver (BUILD KATE'S WALL!)
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To: grobdriver

*Tests*


8 posted on 01/23/2020 4:28:44 AM PST by grobdriver (BUILD KATE'S WALL!)
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To: No.6
Let me help you with your dilemma. The cure for a .380 is a .9mm--- there, all fixed. 😆
9 posted on 01/23/2020 8:17:02 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Thanks. I happen to enjoy 9x19 as well as 9x17 (.380) and .45, and DA/SA as well as strikers. The middling .380 made for a good study as (read pt.1) ammo choices are more important than in larger calibers. Caliber wars are in the thread next door. ;)


10 posted on 01/23/2020 8:49:24 AM PST by No.6
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I've owned or used the .380 on and off since around 1960, when I got my first one, a Hungarian Femaru 37M made by FEG for the Hungarian Army. I'd had a couple of the .32 versions made during the war for the German army, Hungary's Axis ally, and far prefered it to my grandad's Colt pocket pistol in .380, which I eventually inherited.

So far as stopping power goes, that was back in the 95-grain or thereabouts hardball days until Super-Vel's 80 grain JHP came out in the early 1970s. The general choice was one of one more round in the mag if you had a .32 PPK, CZ27, Femaru or Astra, a little more power with a .380. After my right hand was disabled by the poor choice of trying to run a tow chain around a lower front-end frame member of a '67 GMC pickup with power steering and running my three middle fingers thru the fan belt & pulley, I found running an M1911 or Browning GP a little unhandy, and reloading worse. I switched to a left-side carry S&W .41 magnum M58, plus a 2" Bodyguard S&W snubbie for backup, and a .32 or .380 pocket pistol in an ankle rig instead of extra mags or speedloaders. But I'm much better now, thanks!

The last .380 I carried with much regularity was an Ingram M11 while I owned and operated an armored express service, mostly delivering pharmaceutical narcotics to hospitals from the manufacturer. It worked. wouldn't deafen me if it had to be fired from inside a vehicle, and was sufficiently impressive at night to discourage foolhardy amateurs. It also fit in the glove box of my vehicle, sometimes the tin can transporting the goodies, often the unmarked chase car backing up the transport and load. I never had to use the little Ingran buzzsaw, but figured that hardball would be okay for the purpose if I did, multiple hits being expected, and help pretty quickly on the way.

Nowadays? I'm more likely to have a 9mm Makarov if a concealment rig is needed, again as a *third backup* or speed reload. I do have a Star SI in .32, could switch it out with a Slide/Barrel/Magazine change if I really, really needed a .380. I don't.

11 posted on 01/23/2020 10:01:18 AM PST by archy
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To: No.6
Or we could just go to your blog right? 😆
12 posted on 01/23/2020 10:01:32 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Mariner

Hydrashock or other neatly named handgun bullet of any caliber intentionally placed in the eye of an actual living moving Target is a near miracle.

But, anyway.


13 posted on 01/23/2020 10:02:06 AM PST by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: Manly Warrior

I aim for the face.

Close enough.

And I’m good enough to hit 9 of 10 times from 20ft.


14 posted on 01/23/2020 10:05:33 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

Great, now swing it in xyz axes...


15 posted on 01/23/2020 12:02:12 PM PST by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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