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Has Nothing Been Learned Since 2003? Corporate Media Welcome Back Iraq War Hawks To Make Case for Iran
IWB ^ | Eoin Higgins

Posted on 01/12/2020 8:18:44 AM PST by davikkm

"No voices calling for peace. No voices critical of empire. Just establishment media and current and former Pentagon officials who feed off the trillion dollar war machine."

As President Donald Trump spent the early days of 2020 instigating and then backing down from a potentially catastrophic confrontation with Iran, corporate media in the U.S. turned to the very same people who promoted the country's worst foreign policy disaster in a generation to advocate for repeating the mistakes of two decades ago.

The decision of networks and cable news outlets like CNN, MSNBC, and Fox News to bring on a stream of past advocates for and architects of the 2003 invasion of Iraq was panned by progressives who watched in horror and frustration as the same arguments were deployed in service of all-out war with Iran.

"It's War Inc. all over again," tweeted The Nation's Dave Zirin.

Trump's ordered assassination of Iranian military commander Qasem Soleimani on January 3 proved the catalyst for escalated tensions between the U.S. and Iran. It also opened the door for news outlets to welcome back some of the key Bush-era war cheerleaders.

"In a sane and just society, the architects of the nearly 17-year-old war in Iraq—which is still ongoing and has left an estimated half-million people dead—would face war crimes charges and those who cheered them on would be thoroughly discredited." —Jessica Schulberg, HuffPost

The more things change, the more they stay the same, wrote Rolling Stone's Tim Dickinson.

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1 posted on 01/12/2020 8:18:44 AM PST by davikkm
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To: davikkm

It appears Iran might collapse before the ink is even put to contracts by the multinational security firms that keep the Muslim elites on both sides of the Koran well cared for in their bubbles.


2 posted on 01/12/2020 8:22:45 AM PST by protoconservative
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To: davikkm

I think the media was SUPRISED by people like Bolton supporting the rub-out. If they knew support for Trump was coming, they would have been kept off the air.

As to policy...Trump simply doesn’t give a crap what the Neocons want, and he didn’t with Salami. He simply saw Americans under attack, and saw a need to put an end to it.

...and did.


3 posted on 01/12/2020 8:22:49 AM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: davikkm

Our wars in the Middle East are not endless. They are days or weeks t most. It is the nation building that is endless.


4 posted on 01/12/2020 8:27:13 AM PST by chuckee (iber al edia: Trump seels troops)
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To: chuckee
Our wars in the Middle East are not endless. They are days or weeks at most. It is the nation building that is endless.

Good point.

5 posted on 01/12/2020 8:31:08 AM PST by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrats' John Dean])
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To: davikkm

Ah yes. War is never because half the world’s oil supply is being fought over by Muslims and Socialists. It’s always because the Evil Corporations want it.


6 posted on 01/12/2020 8:41:18 AM PST by A_perfect_lady (The greatest wealth is to live content with little. -Plato)
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To: davikkm

We know Iran is willing to launch SAMs with an itch trigger finger. They will certainly do the same with a nuke on a ballistic missile. Once this happens, at Israel’ most likely, WWIII will begin. They cannot have nukes.


7 posted on 01/12/2020 8:41:19 AM PST by DownInFlames (Galsd)
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To: davikkm

Issue is Iranian expansionism. That general had no business being in Iraq in terms of Bismarckian logic.

The second issue is that when you have the deep state with Pelosi bragging that they do not need to negotiate and have all the cards in hands, we have a case of war by crazies. The same applies to Iranian hubris.

Remains to be seen, but my bet is that Iran will not negotiate and continue its own hubris, while our warhawks will fall in the trap of making it look like the negotiation party.


8 posted on 01/12/2020 8:42:40 AM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security in hatse:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: A_perfect_lady

Oil is the life blood of the world. Only a small percentage of the world thinks like the libs in the USA. Europe and China will be more than willing seize the straits of Hormuz to keep the oil flowing.


9 posted on 01/12/2020 8:45:02 AM PST by DownInFlames (Galsd)
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To: davikkm

The attack on the Baghdad Embassy by Iranian proxies proved the catalyst for escalated tensions between the U.S. and Iran.

There, fixed it.


10 posted on 01/12/2020 8:45:58 AM PST by jdsteel (Americans are Dreamers too!!!)
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To: davikkm

This article is typical of a certain strand of Trump criticism as it pretends that a bombing campaign (naval, missiles...) equates to a Bush-like ground invasion. It just doesn’t. Also, Trump is pressuring Iran but note that he always provides an off-ramp. The anti ground invasion crowd is just knocking down a strawman that clearly the President has no intention of doing. In fact, best of all would he if the Iraqis kicked us out.


11 posted on 01/12/2020 8:47:50 AM PST by Stingray51
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To: davikkm
...a potentially catastrophic confrontation with Iran...

Catastrophic for whom? (of course, it would be for Iran, but I don't think that is the author's belief).

Trump's ordered assassination of Iranian military commander Qasem Soleimani on January 3 proved the catalyst for escalated tensions between the U.S. and Iran

No. The escalation of tension was the attack on our embassy. Why do liberals always get it backward?

12 posted on 01/12/2020 8:51:45 AM PST by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: jeffc

And what kind of name is Eoin?


13 posted on 01/12/2020 8:52:54 AM PST by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: JudgemAll
President Trump has been putting pressure on the “crazies” both here and abroad which causes many of them to spin up and self destruct. It is a simple concept seems to be working out as a form of political Jujitsu. We have been witnessing opponents destroying themselves with their own power and influence in many cases. The hypocrisy exposed by the Democrats and the media by their own actions has greatly diminished their power over people.
14 posted on 01/12/2020 8:56:24 AM PST by fireman15
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To: davikkm
Fake news. IWB is a POS publication. No one on Fox that I've seen has been advocating for war with Iran, and I doubt the other cable networks are doing so. It's been the exact opposite - hysterical over-reactions - even from Tucker Carlson - about the possibility the hostilities might escalate simply over this one targeted response to ongoing Iranian provocations.

As we speak, Iran is already in back-down mode after shooting down the airliner, and having to deal with protesters of its own.
15 posted on 01/12/2020 9:10:47 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: Stingray51

I agree with your point except when you refer to a “bombing campaign.” Clinton, Bush, and Obama all used ongoing bombing campaigns - dozens or even hundreds of missions spread out over weeks, months, or even years. Trump’s bombing missions have been limited - a quick strike on a specific target, then OUT.


16 posted on 01/12/2020 9:14:35 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: jeffc
"No. The escalation of tension was the attack on our embassy. Why do liberals always get it backward?"

Correct, and before that there was the killing of the American contractor, Iran's seizing of ships in the Mediterranean, and the raids on Saudi oil facilities, among other Iranian provocations ("death to America" and all that over-the-top rhetoric that is routine with them). "Liberals" get it backward because they are systematic liars.
17 posted on 01/12/2020 9:19:07 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: davikkm

This reminds me of the “Cuban Missile Crises” where people start in the middle so that they can have the explanation they want. Here are the true events regarding missiles in Cuba:

1) USA deployed missiles to Turkey;
2) USSR deployed missiles to Cuba;
3) USSR withdrew missiles from Cuba;
4) USA withdrew missiles from Turkey.

People like to think that only 2) and 3) were the “Cuban Missile Crisis” while ignoring that 3) and 4) were per agreement between JFK and Khrushchev.


18 posted on 01/12/2020 9:32:01 AM PST by libertylover (Democrats hated Lincoln too.)
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To: protoconservative

Although the article is a screed, there is possible truth to it. Presidents are hemmed in by what narrative gets to them through their advisors, the news, and their informal sources.

People who want to go to war can manipulate what the news shows pretty effectively. Right now, I’m seeing stuff that prey’s on patriotic Americans best instincts — crowds in Iran refusing to walk on an American flags, etc.

Maybe this PR campaign represents the best truth en masse about what’s actually going on in Iran today. But maybe it’s just one crowd while the others down the street are viciously anti-american. Maybe it’s completely faked.

We really have no way to assess the truth of these kind of claims in terms of whether the Iranian people en masse are longing for freedom or whether our Deep State, en masse, is longing for a war it can pin to Donald Trump and prevent his election in 2020.

This kind of stuff manipulates Presidents too. And we have a patriotic American president this kind of stuff may be influencing. Or he may be well advised about the real facts on the ground. I just have no idea.

But I’ve gotten very cynical about how we go to war and the public manipulation that paves the way. Gulf of Tonkin (Johnson, Vietnam), Iraqi’s torturing beautiful young Kuwaiti girls (Bush I congressional testimony, Kuwait War), WMD and Iraqi’s longing for freedom (Clinton, Iraq Bombinng campaign, Bush II, Gulf War II), Syrian use of WMD’s (Obama), Turkey’s coming genocide of Kurds (Deep State under Trump) and now Iranians refusing to walk on an American flag (maybe deep state under Trump).

Some of these may have been truth. Some were maybe false but actually believed by our presidents (Iraqi WMD). Others we know were made up.


19 posted on 01/12/2020 9:34:53 AM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: davikkm

Another SH*THEAD loudmouth, who knows nothing. Go away!


20 posted on 01/12/2020 10:34:26 AM PST by richardtavor
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