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Texas Church Shooter Stopped by Armed Church Heroes
AmmoLand ^ | 30 December, 2019 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 12/31/2019 6:49:27 AM PST by marktwain

Screenshot from live feed from West Freeway Church of Christ, text and arrows by Dean Weingarten

On 29 December, at about 10:50 a.m. a masked attacker, who had sat in the service at the West Freeway Church of Christ in White Settlement, close to Fort Worth Texas, opened fire, first on an armed church member, then on an unarmed congregant. The attacker is shot by another armed congregant. The action was over in six seconds.

By the 35 second mark, there were six to seven armed congregants at the scene. There was no crossfire. There was no mistaken identity shooting. Only three or four shots were fired. Two or three by the attacker, one by the defender.

The action was all captured on live stream video from the church.

Link to video on Bitchute

The first two shots fired by the attacker were from a few feet. The defender, a cool pistol shot under fire, was 12-14 yards away, using different scaling assumptions from the video.

The attacker may have fired a third shot as he was hit. It may have occurred by reflex at being shot. A flash on the wall, at the time he was hit, could indicate a third shot, which did not hit anyone. The pump shotgun appeared to be pointing toward the pulpit at that time.

Police officers praised the armed congregants for their heroic defense against the attacker. From Dallas Morning News:

“I would like to point out that we have a couple of heroic parishioners,” Williams said. “Our hearts are going out to them and their families as well.”

He said their quick actions had saved the lives of nearly 250 other churchgoers.

Tarrant County Sheriff Bill Wayborn

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To: Tommygun99
Notice in the photo above that one member near to the attacker is standing up. By standing up she could have been shot accidentally by the armed congregant.

She is the daughter of the wounded congregant. He was a deacon. He pretty much died in her arms.

21 posted on 12/31/2019 7:31:48 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: cyclotic
Coincidentally, I was doing some IDPA shooting on Saturday. One of the lanes had ten 8” steel plate targets set on posts at about 40’.

Make it an 6" plate, and it would be about right.

A head shot is not a big target.

Still, even a non-fatal head shot would likely have taken him out.

You are correct though, it is a level of competence many have attained.

Way above average.

22 posted on 12/31/2019 7:37:20 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: FreedomPoster

Make that one type of men the other is a wimp.


23 posted on 12/31/2019 8:10:15 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: marktwain
SO WHY DO ALL THE REPORTS CITE A PLURALITY OF "HEROES" ?

I'm pretty disgusted with how this is being reported on line

24 posted on 12/31/2019 8:58:41 AM PST by knarf (est line of the year !)
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To: knarf
SO WHY DO ALL THE REPORTS CITE A PLURALITY OF "HEROES" ?

One member of the volunteer church security team was Richard White. He was shot while drawing his pistol.

The second member, the head of the team, Jack Wilson, shot the perpetrator from about 40 feet, head shot, and stopped the threat.

About five or six more armed congregants converged on the downed attacker withing 30 more seconds.

So the term heroes is correct.

The first one was killed without getting a shot off.

25 posted on 12/31/2019 9:07:30 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: marktwain

I don’t know.

Why did he use a shotgun?

What kind of load was he using?


26 posted on 12/31/2019 9:17:12 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: blueunicorn6
Why did he use a shotgun?

Unknown. He had mental issues. I have heard he went off his meds.

What kind of load was he using?

Unknown at this time. At the ranges he shot, even bird shot would be deadly.

27 posted on 12/31/2019 9:22:50 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: marktwain

He’s only going to get off, what, five rounds before he has to reload.

I think his choice of load will go towards determining his proficiency.

What did he have in the backpack?


28 posted on 12/31/2019 9:29:34 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: marktwain
OK .... But the way I learned English would demand I identify the one that shot.

On the video, I see only one immediately standing up and shooting one time ....... it took a few more seconds for others to move towards the downed perp

An interesting note is the news is reporting these men as a "voluntary security service", which I think is interesting.

I'm going to guess that is a way to "qualify" the shooters in church and protecting Jack Wilson from any prosecution.

There is a whole LOT in this event

imo

I'm not trying to be an asshole, I'm just meditating on the event.

I head shot at 15 or so yards with a side arm is pretty impressive

29 posted on 12/31/2019 9:35:08 AM PST by knarf (est line of the year !)
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To: blueunicorn6
He’s only going to get off, what, five rounds before he has to reload.

I think his choice of load will go towards determining his proficiency.

What did he have in the backpack?

It appeared to me to be a basic five shot tube shotgun magazine.

Looked like he did not have a round in the chamber to start.

What was in the backpack has not been released, to my knowledge.

30 posted on 12/31/2019 10:49:37 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: knarf
There is a whole LOT in this event

This video will be used for training for years to come.

The video will be analyzed frame by frame. It has already started.

31 posted on 12/31/2019 10:50:51 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: marktwain
. . . opened fire, first on an armed church member,
I wonder if the church member was Open Carry and easily recognizable, or if the shooter knew he was one of the guards.

By the 35 second mark, there were six to seven armed congregants at the scene.
Reminds me of this classic YouTube: Shopping in Texas.

There was no crossfire. There was no mistaken identity shooting. Only three or four shots were fired. Two or three by the attacker, one by the defender.
NYPD and others, take notice.

32 posted on 12/31/2019 1:17:43 PM PST by Oatka
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To: Oatka
. . . opened fire, first on an armed church member, I wonder if the church member was Open Carry and easily recognizable, or if the shooter knew he was one of the guards.

The attacker had spoken to Richard white, moments before he drew his shotgun and pointed it at White.

Then Richard started to draw his concealed handgun. It looks like it was in a "Small of the Back" holster, or similar position.

The attacker then racks the shotgun and shoots Richard White.

White has his gun out, and gun hand extended and about 30 degrees up from vertical when he is shot.

The time from moment of start of draw to being shot is about 3.1 seconds.

Acceptable draw to fire times for police training is about 1.5 seconds.

It appeared to me the draw was hindered by position and clothing.

Richard was seated, and had to stand up to draw.

33 posted on 12/31/2019 1:30:04 PM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: marktwain

[info on shooter] OK, thanks.


34 posted on 12/31/2019 2:00:48 PM PST by Oatka
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Remember THIS is what Neo-Commies fear will happen to them ...

An armed citizen is the roadblock of the leftist’s tyranny.

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35 posted on 12/31/2019 2:04:23 PM PST by elbook
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