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When Disruptive Students Are Coddled, the Whole Class Suffers
Quillette ^ | December 1, 2019 | Max Eden

Posted on 12/01/2019 5:16:34 AM PST by karpov

Last month, NBC Nightly News aired a segment on the latest classroom-management technique to sweep America’s schools: “room clears”: When a child throws a tantrum that could physically endanger his peers, teachers evacuate all of the other students from the classroom until the troublemaker has vented his rage upon empty desks, tables and chairs. The technique was virtually unheard of five years ago. But 56 percent of surveyed teachers and parents in Oregon now report having experienced a room clear in their or their child’s classroom over the last year.

Surrendering the classroom to a single student: The average reader might well ask why anyone thinks this would be a good idea. Yet the policies that make this approach inevitable have been applauded by a wide range of authorities, from the Southern Poverty Law Center to the Trump-administration’s Department of Education.

The emergence of room clears is a product of several fashionable education-policy trends designed to protect the rights of troubled students, often with little regard for the rights of their classmates. These include the provisions contained in the federal Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA), which mandates that special-education students be subject to the “least restrictive environment” possible. When it comes to students who are hard of hearing, dyslexic or developmentally delayed, this policy likely has done a great deal of good. But many schools also label disruptive or violent students as having an “Emotional and Behavioral Disability” (EBD). Rather than provide these students specialized attention in separate settings, schools often funnel them into traditional classrooms.

In a national poll, two thirds of surveyed teachers at high-poverty schools reported that there is a student in their classroom who they believed shouldn’t be there;

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KEYWORDS: arth; publicschools; schooldiscipline
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To: karpov

“...will have no choice but to continue their education in an environment where a single agitated student has the power to seize control of any classroom he pleases.”

That has been the case in public education from many years already.


21 posted on 12/01/2019 6:11:08 AM PST by odawg
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To: karpov

this is also going on the mental health facilities and mental health hosptials.

The goals are No Restraints ever.

People get hurt, police get called.

Leftist goals in schools and healthcare put many at risk and leave the general population traumatized.


22 posted on 12/01/2019 6:14:01 AM PST by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: bella1

We had a mild mannered music teacher who once absolutely lost it with a boy in my class who never shut his mouth. He used duct tape over his mouth-wrapped it around his head twice. I’ll never forget how either one of them looked. The 6th grade tough guy with tears running down his cheeks or the normally gentle teacher’s face beet red and full of anger.

That kid still never shut his mouth except in music class.


23 posted on 12/01/2019 6:14:21 AM PST by NorthstarMom
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To: FreedomPoster

Kids coddled like that are in for a rude awakening when they get to adulthood and find that behavior that was tolerated and pampered is illegal as an adult.

Then they’re going to be arrested and thrown in jail hand have NO idea why, either what they did wrong or why there are consequences for their actions.


24 posted on 12/01/2019 6:15:43 AM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: karpov

When my kids threw a tantrum, maybe the rooms were clear, but their butts became burning-hot red. Surprisingly, my kids only threw one or two tantrum’s in their childhoods, and did very well, thank you, as adults.


25 posted on 12/01/2019 6:16:02 AM PST by BobL (I drive a pickup truck to work because it makes me feel like a man.)
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To: petitfour

I had a 3rd grade teacher who gave me the odd hug and even a air-type kiss of encouragement or appreciation.

She remains a valuable friend, inspiration and mentor to this day.


26 posted on 12/01/2019 6:16:52 AM PST by relictele
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To: odawg

at least 20 years.

My homeschooled son took a shop class at the local school. A large teenager took a portion of the classroom apart and threatened the teacher. He was sent to the principals office. The principal came back with the boy and both were smiling, they were going to “try again” and get off on the right foot”. My son could clearly see that the boy won.

He moved to the far side of the room away from this boy and close to the door. The boy lasted for one traumatic week.


27 posted on 12/01/2019 6:17:28 AM PST by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: Alberta's Child

Planet of the Apes.

Marko


28 posted on 12/01/2019 6:18:06 AM PST by markoman (Cautiously pessimistic.)
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To: karpov

Reflects the inability of many parents to say “no” to their brats who are growing up to be unsocialized adult brats.


29 posted on 12/01/2019 6:20:33 AM PST by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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To: P.O.E.

In educationese it is called differentiation.


30 posted on 12/01/2019 6:23:25 AM PST by jonsie
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To: relictele

I confess that I have hugged a lot of students I’ve subbed. The disruptive students are the ones who come and hug me when I see them now in public or even when I was subbing in other classes. They were only disruptive for me once. Then they would have a really bad sub, and the next time they had me, they would be so good. I enjoyed subbing because I could always say no when I did not want to deal with particular classes. The schools where I worked have corporal punishment. Most students do not want to visit the principals’ offices.


31 posted on 12/01/2019 6:27:14 AM PST by petitfour (APPEAL TO HEAVEN)
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To: karpov

A relative teaches in a large public school district. This is exactly what he has been told. If a student becomes violent and starts smashing things, including computers, just let him. Make sure the other students get out of the room and wait until the destruction is done.

To date, he’s experienced it once. Except he picked the student up, carried him out into the hall, and THEN called for help. He was reprimanded, but he hasn’t had a repeat...


32 posted on 12/01/2019 6:35:46 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: karpov

This is all true. I teach and special ed students are “pushed” into my room. I have young ones and they are terrified at the “loud” children who scream at random moments, laugh maniacally, bolt for the door and often have to be physically restrained by their minders - all in the presence of 5 year olds. Such a farce! We also have to use the words “neuro- typical” to refer to “normal” students so parents of the “non” typical ones don’t take offense.


33 posted on 12/01/2019 6:38:04 AM PST by Zirondelle76
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To: DownInFlames

recently moved back to Texas from 30 years in Calif., was surprised to see a beautiful new school was named after my Jr high principle who later went on to be the superintendent of the district, great man. He was the only official to ever spank me (girl whom I rebuffed her advances told the principle I hit her) he gave me two swats and said to go back to class, not much enthusiasm in the swats he knew she was lying.


34 posted on 12/01/2019 6:39:40 AM PST by Jolla
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To: karpov

The nuns would have got him to the principals office (another nun) and the kids father would have come to get him. That would have been the end of it one way or the other.


35 posted on 12/01/2019 6:45:47 AM PST by stanne
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To: metmom

Ignoring and not dealing with antisocial behavior in the schools led directly to dead kids in Parkland. It’s well documented in Why Meadow Died.

Bad policy doesn’t just result in bad schools, it sometimes gets schoolchildren and teachers killed.


36 posted on 12/01/2019 6:48:31 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Chickensoup

>>People get hurt, police get called.

This is yet another problem, as police aren’t mental health professionals, no matter how much we’d like them to be. As a society, we’ve avoided dealing with mental health issues, and our police are left trying to pick up the pieces. They really don’t have the training and resources for it, but do the best they can.


37 posted on 12/01/2019 6:51:09 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Undecided 2012

The Sister Miriam in my school, beat the s**t out of more than a few punks.


38 posted on 12/01/2019 6:58:51 AM PST by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the disco)
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To: Hot Tabasco

“You know in our day that whatever punishment we might have gotten in school was going to be much worse when we got home.......”

In our PE class, one snarky kid got the wooden paddle and his mother raised a holy stink. So the school called for a PTA meeting which filled the auditorium and hallways with standing room only. Parents stood firmly with our coaches and ridiculed the parent. She moved away! The _itch!


39 posted on 12/01/2019 6:59:34 AM PST by OregonRancher (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints)
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To: karpov
My public school education was ruined by disruptive students. This was in the 1970s. If you ever saw the TV show "Welcome Back Kotter", that was like my inner-city high school. Except the "sweathogs" weren't so nice and the teachers were even more feckless than Gabe Kaplan's character.

Good thing I developed an early love of books and never stopped reading. That's what saved me from a wasted life.

I made sure I raised my own kids in a bedroom suburb with a first-class public school system. Not perfect by any means but troublemakers were dealt with and even expelled occasionally.

In the inner cities (run by liberals nearly 100% of the time), troublemakers are coddled and as a result, very few inner city children get the education they need to improve their socioeconomic situation in adulthood. (Should mention that the liberals running these cities mostly send their kids to private schools).

40 posted on 12/01/2019 7:01:59 AM PST by SamAdams76
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