Posted on 09/05/2019 7:59:22 AM PDT by w1n1
The Best Gun is the One you Have with You - What would you think of a gun that you could carry in plain sight, was easily accessible in your back pocket or a belt holster, and wouldnt attract the slightest attention? Nobody would look twice at it, even if you were in a T-shirt, with no jacket, and they were standing right next to you in the supermarket check-out line, or even if you were wearing only shorts and sneakers playing Frisbee at the park.
This invisible gun could save your life in a desperate situation, when its appearance would come as a complete surprise to an attacker. Because its invisible, nobody you interact with socially or professionally ever knows you carry a gun for self-defense either. In places where gun ownership is equated with crime and mayhem in the minds of citizens, this invisible gun could save its user a lot of unnecessary social friction.
This idea of an invisible gun is what got the mind of Kirk Kjellberg stewing and led him to invent a double barrel, .380 ACP Derringer with the appearance of a common smartphone. Kjellberg formed Ideal Conceal to manufacture his unique pistol.
"The first rule of gunfighting is have a gun." This is perhaps Jeff Coopers best known quote. The famous lawman-turned-tactical-shooting-guru was making the point that self-defense begins with the "self." Seems obvious, right? Yet in the recent rash of heinous mass-shooting attacks directed against innocent city dwellers in crowded public venues by deranged gunmen, it doesnt appear that anyone on the receiving end was prepared to fight back. The police responded efficiently to these attacks, but the death and injury inflicted by the gunmen was staggering. In Dayton, Ohio, the police arrived in half a minute and killed the attacker, but not before he shot 36 people.
CONSIDER WHAT MIGHT have happened in Dayton, El Paso and Gilroy, if just one good person unfortunate enough to be present at these tragic, insane murder sprees was armed and fired just one shot in response. Lets say the good persons single shot missed the attacker and impacted harmlessly into the wall. Might it have diverted the attackers attention, caused him to pause, take cover, or perhaps withdraw? It might have saved some lives, or might have cost more. We cant know. But, at the very least, it would have been an act of active resistance, a brave attempt to bring the murderous madness to a stop.
That is not to say that any private citizen should be expected to demonstrate heroism in that type of situation, though some did, despite being unarmed. Soldiers march to the sound of the guns but ordinary citizens usually don't. Kids, adults or elderly, whether soccer moms or welders, truck drivers or short order cooks, cant be criticized for running like heck from a life-threatening situation.
That's part of nature's "fight or flight" reaction that all Earth's living, thinking creatures share. What might you or I do in a situation like that? It would probably depend a lot on the circumstances: alone or with family, close or far from the attacker, armed or unarmed? Fight is the other side of the survival instinct we all possess. If we must fight, being armed improves our chances of staying alive. If you assume you can maintain a calculating presence of mind in a life-threatening situation, you probably also assume being armed will figure into your choice of actions. Even if you don't possess what soldiers call "coolness under fire," being armed at least gives you the ability to fight back when you have no other choice. An old army colonel I worked for years ago once told me, Even a bunny will fight when it's cornered. Personally, if I'm ever that bunny, I want to be an armed bunny.
Kjellberg created the IC380 cell phone pistol as a means for those who want to legally arm themselves for protection, to do so with maximum discretion and avoid the ill will and social fallout of conflicts with their anti-gun neighbors, acquaintances and business contacts. Its a niche market perhaps, but so were sword canes in the 19th century.
As a two-shot derringer, the IC380 is no Glock 43. However, that was never Kjellbergs goal. His objective was to get people who dont exercise their right to carry a concealed handgun for self-defense to start doing it, and just as importantly, to keep doing it. Read the full story on IC380 cell phone pistol.
There used to be a leather wallet designed to hide a little .22 (Beretta I think). You could shoot the pistol still in the wallet.
Not much of a pistol, but it had 6-7 shots and seemed the ideal “mugging cessation tool”, as you could simply be getting out your wallet as directed.
Wonder if they are still around.
I went another route. I bought a Bull Pup cell phone holster.
I carries my BG .380 perfectly on my belt. Magnetic closer. Love it.
“Hmm, ATF proclaimed Wallet Holsters that alter the shape of a hand-gun to be NFA items.
Then refused to allow them to registered, at a cost of $200 each.”
Ahah. See my previous post.
Another non-infringement.
It fits in your pocket in a sleeve holster like a wallet. No one sees it unless you pull it out.
Seems to have room
for a LASER,
or I’m dreaming.
If the cost was
around 200,
It could be a Hit.
Baretta Pico,
Interesting.
No, that would be the 1911-style Conceal Cell Phone pistol.
Empty your 1911 you don't have to call anybody...everybody within half a mile will come a-running.
lol
Absolutely Positively
CORRECT!
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LMAO!
If part of the firearm is exposed, then the wallet holster is not an NFA device and is legal without a stamp.
Example of a legal wallet holster:
“in a Telecom Dictionary, it mentions the Mossad successfully rigging a terrorists cellphone (c. 1990) with plastic explosive.”
A literal meaning to the term his “phone blew up”.
I have one of those too. My wife carries a 32 that is slightly smaller than the LCP but only very slightly. I have a bodyguard that is not much bigger than the LCP but the LCP just feels better in the hand.
Wallet holsters and hidden guns are $5.00 tax stamp as an AOW, not $200.00
Interesting. What does carrying an IC380 do with regard to CC laws? If your state has open carry then I assume its no problem to carry this cell phone looking gun around in the open. If you normally carry CC and your CC privileges are dependent from the Sheriff on your not brandishing, then if you carry this open but no one notices are you violating your CC agreement? If you are holding your IC380 ‘phone’ in your hand, is that the same as if you are waving around a typical handgun? Lots of legal and practical questions to be thought through.
More like he received a call that really blew his mind.
IF ATF deems it an AOW and not an SBR.
But it’s moot in any case as the manufacturer I am remembering was not allowed to register the product as either.
Yet other manufacturers are able to sell essentially identical products.
Got to love such “Equality under the law”. /S
This summer I saw a (no holster) full-size 1911 (or VERY similar in outline) in the front pants pocket of a workman in the Capitol Building of a very gun-friendly state. I don’t know how you can draw that quickly from a pocket, but if he has time to deploy it, he will have the best gunfighting tool around when needed. I was tempted to ask some questions, but he was working hard and I also didn’t want to stray from what I was doing.
One can only pray that dude doesnt have a round in the chamber. Really, really bad practice to not have your loaded handgun in a proper holster when carrying in public. For numerous reasons.
But, yeah, a well-made 1911 is a marvelous machine of shooting goodness!
You are not entirely correct.
A wallet alone is not an NFA item.
A handgun alone is not an NFA item.
When you put the firearm into the wallet, you have manufactured an AOW, and before you can put the firearm in the wallet, you must apply for an ATF Form 1 and pay $200.
Once you receive your $200 stamp, you can legally "manufacture" your AOW by putting the firearm in the wallet.
Now you can transfer that legally-manufactured AOW wallet and firearm to another person for $5.
ATF explanation of the process:
https://www.atf.gov/file/56386/download
ATF has received numerous inquiries regarding wallet guns and wallet holsters.As defined in section 5845(e) of the National Firearms Act (NFA), the term any other weapon includes certain concealable weapons. Various types of disguised weapons such as cane guns, belt buckle guns, and briefcase guns (with remote control firing mechanisms) fall within the any other weapon category. It is unlawfil to make, possess, or transfer such firearms without complying with the provisions of the NFA.
During the 1970s, ATF determined that various small handguns combined with certain wallet holsters fall into the any other weapon category and are subject to the provisions of the NFA. These wallet holsters are generally rectangular in shape, are designed to disguise the appearance of the handgun, and are designed to allow the weapon to be fired while it is contained within the wallet. The handgun combined with the wallet holster constitutes an NFA firearm.
A conventional pistol or revolver which is possessed without the wallet holster would not be an NFA firearm. A wallet holster alone is not subject to NFA controls and cannot be registered or transferred as a firearm. Firearms contained in conventional holsters, trouser pockets, purses, gun cases, or various other forms of carrying cases have not been determined to fall within the definition of an any other weapon, even though it maybe possible to discharge a firearm while it is carried in such a manner.
In order for an individual to lawfully make a wallet gun, that is to say, acquire both the handgun and the wallet holster, the person must first submit an Application to Make and Register a Firearm (ATF Form 1), pay a $200.00 making tax and receive approval of the application. The serial number appearing on the handgun should be used to register the firearm. Transfer of a wallet gun requires an approved transfer application and payment of a $5 transfer tax. A transfer will not be approved unless the wallet gun has been registered to the transferor.
Mere sale or possession of the wallet holster without the handgun is not a violation of the NFA. However, 18 U.S.C. section 2 provides that a person who aids or abets another person in the commission of an offense is also responsible for the offense. Therefore, sale or distribution of a wallet holster with knowledge that it will be used to make an unregistered NFA firearm may also place the seller or distributor of the holster in violation of the NFA.
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