Posted on 08/27/2019 12:54:19 PM PDT by surroundedbyblue
Ann,
My husband and I have been in the SCA for many years and have been re-thinking our membership lately for a number of reasons. You are absolutely correct, the SCA is a cult, but it is a very subtle one.
First, I must point out (and this isn’t meant as a blanket defense of the SCA) there are plenty of conservative folks in the organization, like my husband and myself. I read your post about the SCA after seeing a near-hysterical rant about it on FB from a lady who, to my knowledge, is not a swinger; there are a lot of people in the SCA who aren’t. It’s entirely possible they are unaware of a lot. There are many women in the SCA who enjoy hand sewing, costuming, and cooking — and that’s all (although it’s hilarious listening to them sit around, hand sewing in their laps, pots aboil on the stove, raging on about feminism and the patriarchy. I’m not kidding.) My husband has enjoyed the “heavy weapons” fighting; it’s good exercise, and just as with the women, there are plenty of fairly conservative men in the SCA. For many years politics was simply not mentioned, although one was expected to be a good sport and be “tolerant.” Also, when my husband and I first joined we weren’t Catholic or even practicing Christians. We live in a small city with a smaller group so we’ve probably missed some of the worst but we’ve heard about it.
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Who has told you that a denomination can save your soul?
So you won’t even read Catholic writers? Because they’re Catholic? You’re a nut.
My point is that Ann chose to go the Catholicism sacramental works based religion, rather than follow The Christ. Catholicism is not Christianity. Rome conquered the Holy Apostolic Ekklesia of ALL believers, so that the thing called Catholicism, particulatrly Romaism is no longer even a distant shadow of The One True Church/Body of Believers.
BTW, thanks for calling me 'nuts' for standing up for the Gospel against catholicism.
Sorry, reading your posts on this thread made it sound like you stopped reading her because she went Catholic. In fact, you said exactly that in the post I’m responding to right now. If you mean something else, oh well.
The direction she chose gives me pause as to her grasp of things.
My mentor of many years ago told me, “One man’s mnemonics are the other man’s hieroglyphics”.
Winching would be an interesting way to catch girls. Round here wenching means winding up something with the spool on the front of your truck. Folks say it that way and when they write it they spell it that way, too.
I agree with her recommendation to read Moira Greyland Peat’s “The Last Closet”.
The SCA has, in my experience, had equal parts liberal arts majors who are liberal and geeky nerds who enjoy the mead and sword fighting and would otherwise be at comic-conventions. And that half often DOES attend scifi events.
The liberal arts group is generally liberal. The geeky nerd group is at least half liberal.
I agree with her recommendation to read Moira Greyland Peat’s “The Last Closet”.
Bwahahahaha
Very nice
This is so much rubbish! I have been to probably a dozen SCA events over the years as a teacher of weaving, participant in fingerloop braiding and book binding classes, and vendor of weaving and needlework supplies. What I have seen were lots of nerdy people like myself who enjoy rediscovering lost arts.
This reminds me of the letters to the editor of our local paper about 30 years ago insisting that our teenagers’ after school participation in Dungeons and Dragons was definitely satanic! Same hogwash.
Wow. So, the 8 years I was in the SCA I was part of a cult because I didn’t participate in any of, nor did I see any of the things you are speaking of from the vast majority of the people I met?
I’ve met probably 1000 people in the SCA. Most of them were good at heart. Granted, there were the occasional folks who were a bit overly entertained by the women in the low cut dresses and tight corsets. We did have 2 sets of folks that were not swingers, but poly families. 3 people. Usually one was the male fighter, one was the well-respected lady of the house, and the third was the female house servant. (Both the cases I’m aware of this was how it was structured.)
We had someone who was an adult male who tried to force himself upon a young girl of about 13. He was dragged out, beaten, publicly ejected from society and arrested and charged and had over 200 witnesses to his confession.
Another instance, we had a man who forced himself upon a different woman in the group. He was chased, captured, arrested, prosecuted and was never allowed back in again. He showed up at an event some years later, and the local “king” literally forced the people who figured out that “he tripped” to apologize to him prior to expelling him from the events and reinforcing the ban of his attendance.
I’ve never witnessed any of what you’re referring to. I’ve heard tales of the heathen nights at Pennsic, and the naked run at Gulf Wars, but an overwhelming satanic presense, sex perverts and whatever, it’s extremely rare, and since they’re armed most of the time, it’s often VERY policed. It’s the only place I ever felt comfortable with my special needs children (I have 2 boys with special needs) being able to run around unsupervised. They always knew that their SCA “family” would report back to me or their mother if they did anything, and the one time they didn’t, they reported it to the king, who then tracked me down personally and let me know.
It seems odd to me that acceptance and inclusion would be considered something evil.
Society for Creative Anachronism. They do medieval recreations. They dress up and play knights and ladies. Is there some decadence? Yes. That’s why the running joke is it’s the Society for Consenting Adults. But, despite the joke name, in the 8 years I was active, I can honestly say the hatred I’m seeing spewed in this article, there is NOTHING I can see that resembles the organization I knew.
The bruises were annoying, and my back couldn’t handle the heavy fighting.
I’ve been to parties as late as 4 am, and never seen any of the crazy stuff being referred to. Yes, the joke was Society of Consenting Adults, but I never saw that kind of mentality. Maybe I didn’t go to the right events, but I went all up and down the East Coast from Georgia to Maryland for SCA events, and never saw it. We showed up at one event in Virginia at about 10:30 the night before to drop some stuff off with folks before heading to the hotel (I couldn’t camp due to severe back issues). I hear a LOT. I heard people talking in low whispers. I heard conversations about money issues, about some sexual issues that dealt with outside the society issues, and some other conversations about kids and school and other stuff, but never heard any hedonistic crazy things. There were over 200 people camped.
Then they should go to SCA events instead, in the southeast, where ladies are treated like ladies, and perverts are beaten and removed from polite society.
Apparently, she’s never heard of DragonCon (coming up next weekend) and Frolicon in April (both in Atlanta).
I think her head would spin about 6 times and she’d explode.
My guess is each group does it’s own thing
The place where I heard about it was Redding California, but at that time (1981) an orgy could easily happened if someone threw a Tupperware party in Redding. It the whole town, not the presence of one group or another.
Some of the other marines from 29 Palms went. I stayed at the motel and worked on my armor.
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