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‘People don’t want to be stupid twice’: Foreign diplomats brace for Trump 2020 win
The Politico ^ | August 18, 2019 | Nahal Toosi

Posted on 08/19/2019 1:01:43 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The expectation that Trump will win could affect how allies and adversaries approach negotiations with the U.S.

Foreign diplomats are still feeling burned after assuming Donald Trump would lose in 2016 — and they don’t want to be fooled again.

So many of them are quietly preparing for and predicting a Trump victory in 2020. Some are even trying to game out who will be on the president’s team in a second term. The belief that Trump will win reelection — gleaned from conversations with around 20 foreign diplomats, international officials and analysts who deal with them — appears widespread.

“In 2016, nobody believed he was going to be elected. People don’t want to be stupid twice,” said Gérard Araud, a former French ambassador to the United States.

There’s no known scientific survey on the topic — few foreign officials would participate in one given diplomatic norms that preclude them from commenting on another country's internal politics. But none who talked to POLITICO was willing to say Trump will lose. Instead, they pointed to three key advantages for Trump: He’s the incumbent, the U.S. economy is strong and the Democrats have no definitive front-runner to challenge him.

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1 posted on 08/19/2019 1:01:43 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Re: “People don’t want to be stupid twice”
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Reminds me of LTG Russel Honore: “You’re Stuck on STUPID!”

During a press conference in Louisiana, an obnoxious (surprise!)member of the news media tried to pull a fast one on LTG Honore, who had just the right answer for him. [one minute video]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv5m4hTMuWU


2 posted on 08/19/2019 1:08:56 AM PDT by deks
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

<< “In 2016, nobody believed he was going to be elected. People don’t want to be stupid twice,” said Gérard Araud, a former French ambassador >>

In the case of French diplomats, they passed twice a long time ago.


3 posted on 08/19/2019 1:12:03 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If you go back to the summer of 2016 to November 2016....virtually all of European news media operations were getting their basis of ‘thought’ from the NY Times and Washington Post. They quoted off of the two, and had no doubt that both knew what they were talking about.

In the weeks after the election, particularly in Germany....there was no real attempt to explain how the Trump victory occurred, just that someone or some method would be used to stop his entry into the Presidency. The few attempts to explain it....would usually go to the term ‘dumb-voters’.


4 posted on 08/19/2019 1:15:08 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There’s no cure for stupid. Ignorance, yes.


5 posted on 08/19/2019 1:35:54 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Mr. Mojo

lol


6 posted on 08/19/2019 1:45:17 AM PDT by dp0622 (Bad, bad company Till the day I die.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

President Trump is going to have a victory similar to Reagan’s. He might even carry California if they can minimize the fraud there.


7 posted on 08/19/2019 1:50:17 AM PDT by Nateman (If the left is not screaming, you are doing it wrong.)
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To: Nateman

President Trump has no chance of winning California, not with widespread illegal votes. Deport a million or so illegals from that state, and a real American could win it, but not with their present population voting.


8 posted on 08/19/2019 1:54:57 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Again, leftists calling everyone else stupid is pretty standard fare. They project their own lack of intelligence onto everyone else.

Vote for President Trump again, folks.

JoMa


9 posted on 08/19/2019 2:04:37 AM PDT by joma89
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To: joma89

One of the real paradoxes of is their contempt for their opponents and certainty that they are intellectually and morally superior to everyone else.


10 posted on 08/19/2019 2:15:54 AM PDT by rdcbn ( Referentia)
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It wasnt just global stupidity------they and the Clintons were involved in some reprehensible stuff.

<><>HILLARY AND OBAMA LEFT A FORMIDABLE GLOBAL PAPER TRAIL<><>

Former Italian PM may have plotted with Obama to remove Trump
Gateway Pundit ^ | Joe Hoft / FR Posted by Timocrat
Members of Italian intelligence were approached by Hillary Clinton, the Obama Administration, and the Deep State in order to frame Trump by PLANTING EVIDENCE on American servers to force Trump to step down from office.

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EXCLUSIVE: Rumors Swirling that Fired Italian Spies Were Connected in Plot to Eliminate Trump
GATEWAY PUNDIT ^ | 5/25/2019 | Joe Hoft / FR Posted by bitt

Rumors are swirling that the recent firings of top Italian spies were related to Obama and a plot to set up candidate and President Trump in a Hillary email scandal. Earlier this month Italian Prime Minister Conte asked for the resignations of four top intelligence officials after his call with President Donald Trump. And now another Internet Sleuth has uncovered some shocking news related to the recent removal of these top Italian intelligence ministers from their positions as top spies in the government.

The story begins in January 2017 when Computer World wrote about alleged crimes committed by Italian Giulio Occhionero: The Tuesday arrest of Giulio Occhionero and his sister, Francesca Maria, has brought to light what appears to be the biggest, and highest-profile, hacking of institutional and corporate accounts ever reported in Italy. The siblings have been planting the Pyramid Eye remote access Trojan on computers using a spear-phishing technique over several years, according to the arrest order. They attacked at least 18,000 high-profile targets, including former Prime Ministers Matteo Renzi and Mario Monti, President of European Central Bank Mario Draghi, as well as employees and heads of various ministries including Internal Affairs, Treasury, Finance and Education. (Excerpt) Read more at thegatewaypundit.com ...

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Nunes: ‘Someone was running an op against the Trump campaign on FOREIGN soil’
The National Sentinel ^ | 5/31/19 | Jon Dougherty / FR Posted by SleeperCatcher

House Intelligence Committee Ranking Member Devin Nunes told Fox News‘ Sean Hannity Thursday night that he is certain “someone” was running an intelligence operation against the 2016 Trump campaign “on foreign soil,” and that one or more U.S. allies were likely involved. “I think we can be sure about one thing and that is on foreign soil, someone was running operations against Trump campaign people,” he said. “Now, we don’t know if that was our government, if it was the British government or some type of firm of some kind, but I think it is definitely a fact that on British soil, maybe on Italian soil, there were activities going on that we need to get to the bottom of.” (Excerpt) Read more at thenationalsentinel.com ...

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Australian Government Confirms Official Role in “Spygate”…
CONSERVATIVE TREEHOUSE ^ | 4/18/2019 | SUNDANCE / FR Posted by bitt
In response to media inquiry and FOIA demands, the government of Australia formally admitted today to the role of High Commissioner Alexander Downer and his engagements with George Papadopoulos in 2016. The timing coincides with the Mueller Report (released today), which states it was information about this engagement from Alexander Downer that opened the FBI counterintelligence investigation in July 2016. The Australian government cited the conclusion of the Robert Mueller special counsel investigation as the background for their willingness to comply with an 15-month-old FOIA request from Buzzfeed News. (Excerpt) Read more at theconservativetreehouse.com ...

BLACKMAIL? HUSH MONEY?

CIRCA 2017---Barack Obama transfers $500m to Green Climate Fund to protect Paris deal last days in office;
That's Obama's second $500M withdrawn from State Dept using executive powers; bypassing congressional support.
Michael Slezak / Tue 17 Jan 2017 / Last modified on Wed 14 Feb 2018

Barack Obama has transferred a second $500m installment from the State Dept to the Green Climate Fund just three days before he leaves office. Photograph: Evan Vucci/AP Barack Obama has heeded calls to help secure the future of the historic Paris agreement by transferring a second $500m instalment to the Green Climate Fund, just three days before he leaves office. The fund was a key aspect of the Paris agreement signed in 2015, which aims to keep global warming “well below” 2C and aspires to keep warming to 1.5C. Established in 2010, it is financed by wealthy countries and used to assist developing countries with adaptation and mitigation. It was widely seen as a key measure to bring both rich and poor countries to the negotiating table. The US committed to transferring $3bn to the fund. The new installment leaves $2bn owing, with the incoming president, Donald Trump, expected to cease any further payments.

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The $billion that made a short cut thru numbered accounts in a French Polynesian bank? (smirk)

11 posted on 08/19/2019 2:38:50 AM PDT by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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GLOBALISM REFERENCE---The Australian newspaper the "Herald Sun" ran an October article entitled, “Why have we donated to Clinton’s foundation?” The paper noted "Former Prime Minister Gillard donated $300 million of our money to the Clinton-affiliated Global Partnership for Education.”

That's one humongous amt of Australian govt money that fell into the hands of the conniving Clintons. The Herald Sun needs to dig deeper---to determine if any of that money took a circuitous route then landed back into the personal coffers of the donors. Could have happened like this:

BACKSTORY When he went to jail, investigators found Ponzi King Bernie Madoff had stashed billions offshore-----into a labyrinth of financial entities.

COLLUSION AND CONSPIRACIES GALORE Some $8.9 billion was funneled to Madoff through a dozen so-called feeder funds based in Europe, the Caribbean and Central America......a labyrinth of hedge funds, management companies and service providers that, to unsuspecting outsiders, seemed to compose a formidable system of checks and balances.

But the purpose of this complex architecture was just the opposite: the feeder funds provided different modes for directing money to Madoff in order to avoid scrutiny.

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Some observers inside Germany believe the German government has some explaining to do for the donation that appears under the heading “Donors and Grantors”.“Why does a Ministry supports the election campaign of a U.S. presidential candidate?” blogged Vera Lengsfeld — former civil rights activist and German parliamentarian. “It seems German taxpayers unwittingly financed Hillary Clinton’s election campaign.” There is also the question pending: how many German govt ministries gave money to the Clintons.

The ones that operate offshore (or if they have any that are actually incorporated in other countries) will be especially prone to abuse.

The most incriminating thing---so far--- is Billy's infamous "pass-through account." Deposited and emptied the same day....money whereabouts unknown.

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STROLL DOWN MEMORY LANE--- Billybooboo's infamous "WJC LLC" pass-through account....funds deposited then emptied the same day. Funds just disappear, and no scrutiny involved.

Funds passing through Billybooboo's WJC LLC could end up in: (a) offshore accounts, (b) money market accounts, (c) hedge funds, (d) another foundation account, (e) assorted investment accounts....without garnering public scrutiny.

12 posted on 08/19/2019 2:40:06 AM PDT by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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(HAT TIP COUNTRECOUNT) The Clinton Foundation goes WAY BEYOND the Foundation.

The Clintons run 48 “Global Foundations/shell companies .....each with its own fund-raising mechanism:

A) Clinton Bush Haiti Fund; began 1/28/10; dissolved 12/27/12 at GHW Bush’s request
B) Clinton Climate Initiative (CCI)
C) Clinton Development Initiative (CDI)
D) Clinton Family Foundation: in NY registered in 2001
E) Clinton Foundation: in AR registered 1998
F) Clinton Foundation: in Hong Kong registered 2014
G) Clinton Foundation: in Haiti
H) Clinton Foundation: registered to this address in Sweden: Birger Jarlsgatan 55, Stockholm, SW 11145
I) Clinton Foundation HIV/AIDS Initiative (CFHAI): bogus co. run under CF
J) Clinton Giustra Enterprise Partnership (CGEP), Canada
K) Clinton Giustra Sustainable Growth Initiative (CGSGI)
L) Clinton Global Citizens Award (CGCA)
M) Clinton Global Initiative (CGI): in AR registered 2005
N) Clinton Global Initiative Asia (CFIA)
O) Clinton Global Initiative University (CGIU)
P) Clinton Health Access Initiative (CHAI): claimed 2002 origination. Registered in Mass 2009.
Q) Clinton Health Matter Initiative (CHMI)
R) Clinton Hunter Development Initiative (CSBI)
S) Clinton Institute (CI)
T) Clinton Small Business Initiative (CSBI)
U) Ciudad Verde Amarilo Triada Frailejon III: in Bogota
S) Clinton Institute (CI)
T) Clinton Small Business Initiative (CSBI)
U) Ciudad Verde Amarilo Triada Frailejon III: in Bogota
Y) The Clinton Initiatives (TCI)
Z) The Clinton Museum Store (TCMS)
AA) William J. Clinton Foundation (Kenya) Charity Trust,Nairobi
BB) William J. Clinton Foundation UK, London – dissolved 10/10/17
CC) William J. Clinton Foundation (WJCF)
DD) William J. Clinton Presidential Center (CPC)
EE) WJC Investments (William Jefferson Clinton, for profit)
FF) WJC LLC (William Jefferson Clinton, for profit)
GG) Too Small to Fail
HH) Onward Together: Hillary’s most recent scandal
II) Haiti Development Fund LLC, NY (50% ownership)
JJ) Acceso Fund LLC, NY (50% ownership)
KK) Acceso Ofertal Local, Colombia (fruit/veg supply)
LL) Acacia Development CO, NY (investment)
MM) Acceso Worldwide Fund Inc, NY (investment)
NN) Fondo Acceso Sas, Colombia – subsidiary of Acceso Fund LLC
OO) Acceso Cashew Enterprise Ltd, Maharashtra IN (cashew co)
PP) Tukula Farmin Company Ltd, Kasungu Malawi and Mchinji
QQ) Moyo Nuts and Seeds Ltd, Limbe MI
RR) Moyo Development Company in Africa
SS) Acceso Peanut Enterprise Corp, Haiti (false address; doesn’t exist)
TT) Acceso Boyaca SA: in Colombia (50% ownership)
UU) Chakipi Acceso SA: in Lima PE (50% ownership)
VV) Ruaha Development Co Ltd: in Upanga Tanzania


13 posted on 08/19/2019 2:40:55 AM PDT by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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.....Dems actually did Collude with foreign countries to generate propaganda to affect a Presidential Election.
They forced a bogus investigation.....and in typical Dem fashion, they accused Trump of doing what they did......

.......there are dozens of memos that make up an actual diary of moment-by-moment events, during the FBI
investigation of Donald Trump (as candidate and as president), documented by Obama's FBI Director Comey......

SOURCE: CONSERVATIVE TREEHOUSE | 4/9/2019 | SUNDANCE / FR Posted by bitt
A late day submission to DC Circuit Court in a FOIA case reveals the content of previously
unknown James Comey memos
. Obama's entire anti-Trump operation is memorialized in writing:
<><> how Obama’s FBI Director James Comey wrote down the sources and code-names assigned;
<><> how confidential sources engaged with FISA coverage initiated by Obama's FBI;
<><> naming foreign governments assisting Obama and Hillary with their vile efforts;
<><> and the rollout plans for Obama's phony investigation....."by the book."

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During her ill-fated campaign Hillary bragged about “foreign governments” supporting her election.

Are these the same “foreign governments” Comey had assisting their efforts to frame Trump? (smirk)

That would mean Obama, Comey and Hillary were colluding with foreign governments.

14 posted on 08/19/2019 2:43:13 AM PDT by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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NOV 2013 REPORT-— The Hill reported Bill Clinton was panhandling in China for the “Clinton Foundation” The Hill | By Mario Trujillo / Posted by Cincinatus’ Wife

Ex-President Bill Clinton (exploiting the presidency) panhandles for foundation donations from the Chinese. Hillary as the US president is the carrot-on-the-stick to get money

Clinton told a Chinese audience that a female president would be good for the United States. Clinton was in China to meet with the country’s president and to promote the “Clinton Foundation.”


15 posted on 08/19/2019 2:57:09 AM PDT by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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But, but... every one of those people in the POLLS is going to beat him by double digits.

What’s the matter with these diplomats?


16 posted on 08/19/2019 3:07:29 AM PDT by Maris Crane
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ha. People have no problem being stupid 24x7. Stupid twice? Yeah, that would be a pretty good title for a book covering bammy’s two terms.


17 posted on 08/19/2019 3:57:26 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps ( Be ready!)
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To: Liz

Great post, thanks.


18 posted on 08/19/2019 4:38:52 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Maris Crane

bump


19 posted on 08/19/2019 11:57:00 AM PDT by japaneseghost
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