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Grazing Land Inventory, USDA on site survey
myself ^ | 7/1/19 | me

Posted on 07/01/2019 11:10:27 AM PDT by Black Agnes

My 80yr old widowed mother just got a letter from the local office of the USDA *telling* her that their people were going to be on her property doing a 'grazing land inventory' survey using 'equipment'. She was given no choice to opt out of this or any other contact information.

What are her rights in this matter? She does NOT want to let strangers with 'equipment' on her property. We've heard too many bad things about abuse of power and 'privilege' from fedgov wrt property rights and land use.


TOPICS: Agriculture; Government; Miscellaneous; Outdoors
KEYWORDS: propertyrights
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To: mad_as_he$$

This has never been a ‘crop’ property since my parents have lived there.

It’s a ‘house place’ with a 10ac ‘front yard’.


21 posted on 07/01/2019 11:53:29 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

Find a way to contact a local militia and set up a roadblock and cordon. It’s HER land, not theirs.


22 posted on 07/01/2019 11:55:17 AM PDT by 60Gunner (The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. - Plato)
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To: Black Agnes

Contact a licensed attorney and have them send a letter.


23 posted on 07/01/2019 11:56:56 AM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: 60Gunner

We’d rather try the lawyer route first...


24 posted on 07/01/2019 11:57:35 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: ConjunctionJunction

Ya. We’ve decided we’ll have to do that.

Can USDA reimburse our legal fees for that? (sarcasm, sadly)(maybe the tides foundation can cough up a few bux...)


25 posted on 07/01/2019 11:59:08 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

LOL! If only...


26 posted on 07/01/2019 12:03:37 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: Black Agnes
What state ?

The Bundy's have a TON of data and information for you

27 posted on 07/01/2019 12:08:05 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're tru)
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To: knarf

Mom lives in the deep south.

Not a western state.

Not BLM property.


28 posted on 07/01/2019 12:09:31 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

I would think there might be similar generalizations about corporate takeovers or whatever.


29 posted on 07/01/2019 12:11:25 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're tru)
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To: Black Agnes

If terayza kerry is not too looped on raisins, maybe she could direct you to someone.


30 posted on 07/01/2019 12:12:25 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're tru)
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To: Black Agnes

Found this on the site you linked to a different post:

“The NRI is carried out under the authority of a number of legislative acts including the Rural Development Act of 1972, the Soil and Water Resources Conservation Act of 1977, the Federal Agriculture Improvement and Reform Act of 1996, and the Farm Security and Rural Investment Act of 2002”

It also seems like an initial survey was completed several years ago and they are doing “re-visits” so you may have had them there before.

You may need to do some more research here before building redoubts and reinforcing them with artillery.


31 posted on 07/01/2019 12:15:06 PM PDT by fruser1
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To: Black Agnes

Since you are not in the business of raising livestock, they have NO legitimate reason to “survey” your property. Which implies illegitimate reasons.

My advice is to step away from the keyboard, right now, and get on the phone with your attorney. A few bucks spent on a lawyer now, may just save you a lot of grief later.


32 posted on 07/01/2019 12:18:44 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: fruser1

‘We’ have never had them there before.

And the fact that the letter was a bully letter. To an 80yr old widow.

It’s strange that they didn’t send it any of the previous 20+ years my parents have lived there.

But less than a year after my father passes...poof, bully the widow.


33 posted on 07/01/2019 12:19:03 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: SauronOfMordor

We’re doing just that.

Letter(s) will be send post haste.

It’s a shame we have to be so suspicious of their intentions.

But the fact that their ‘affiliates’ are a bunch of people hating, private property hating, ecowacko jerks is proof enough they’re not to be trusted.


34 posted on 07/01/2019 12:23:50 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

Most rural surveys for land use managment, crop surveys, CRP compliance etc. can be done through remote sensing, especially now that LIDAR is available. physical surveys on the property sounds to me like a search for noxious weeds, endangered species, and bodies of water. Danger, Will Robinson. Get a lawyer.


35 posted on 07/01/2019 12:38:43 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: centurion316

“physical surveys on the property sounds to me like a search for noxious weeds, endangered species, and bodies of water. Danger, Will Robinson. Get a lawyer.”

Exactly our thoughts. It’s a fishing expedition. And not for our benefit.

And these are the guys that have been caught TAKING endangered species and noxious weeds on to private property.


36 posted on 07/01/2019 12:41:04 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

Sounds like you’re correct. Your property is highly likely already surveyed for deed/tax purposes. For what possible reason would someone from the gubmint want to come onto your property?


37 posted on 07/01/2019 1:12:26 PM PDT by gr8eman
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To: Black Agnes

Hummm. Interesting. My guess is that they could be stopped but you would probably need a lawyer to do it. If you are friendly with the local sheriff you may get them to stop it or at least monitor the workers.

frustrating situation, I understand.


38 posted on 07/01/2019 1:38:46 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: Black Agnes

Contact your nearest NRCS office and talk to them. They may have bad data but in any case you can make them explain it in detail.

That won’t cost anything.


39 posted on 07/01/2019 1:48:43 PM PDT by tiki
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To: Black Agnes

This is just a guess, it is a public/private collaboration.

The other guess is that your mother’s property might have originally been farmland and the owner parceled it out but is still in the system as active agriculture land. As I said call the local NRCS.


40 posted on 07/01/2019 2:03:28 PM PDT by tiki
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