Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Fact-Checkers Of Trump’s Orlando Speech Show AOC-Level Ineptitude
The Revolutionary Act ^ | 06/24/19

Posted on 06/24/2019 6:58:04 AM PDT by Liberty7732

A PolitiFact fact-check of President Trump’s campaign launch last week in Orlando that was run in newspapers nationwide went horribly, embarrassingly, laughably wrong on the one count in which they ruled Trump was “wrong.”

PolitiFact did their usual number after Trump’s speech, supposedly fact-checking the President. In it, there are assumptions made that highlight the normal bias.

But the only fact-checked statement these intrepid journalists ruled as “wrong” — they got totally wrong.

Here’s what PolitiFact wrote that Trump got wrong:

(We passed) “the biggest tax cut in history.” Wrong. Trump often repeats this point, but three tax cuts were larger. In inflation-corrected dollars, the American Taxpayer Relief Act of 2012 cut $321 billion per year. The Tax Relief Act of 2010 cut them by $210 billion per year. And the Economic Recovery Tax Act of 1981 reduced taxes by $208 billion a year.

The 2017 Tax Cut and Jobs Act cut taxes by $150 billion a year.

You, like me, might be shocked to find out that Obama signed much larger tax cuts during his administration. Twice! Seems like that would have been pretty big news — and pretty out of character. But a quick google of the American Taxpayer Relief Act of 2012 finds the details at Investopedia.

The truth? Neither was a tax cut.

They were both a continuation of the Bush tax cuts that were set to expire. So if they had expired and the tax rates reverted to their higher levels, it would have been a tax increase. But they did not. This supposed “tax cut” actually did nothing more than keep taxes at the exact same level as they were.

Maintaining tax rates at the same rate is definitionally not a tax cut. Unless, that is, you are simply trying to make the President look like he was wrong.

Further, this supposed “tax cut” that is the American Taxpayer Relief Act actually raised taxes.

ATRA’s passage prevented the expiration of most of the major tax cuts enacted between 2001 and 2010. It made permanent the tax savings included in the Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2001 and the Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003. ATRA extended through 2017 the tax cuts built into the American Recovery and Reinvestment Tax Act of 2009. Along with these extended tax cuts, ATRA raised payroll taxes for many Americans and reversed cuts for the highest earners that had been passed with the support of the George W. Bush administration.

Well, what about The Tax Relief Act of 2010, which cut taxes by $210 billion per year as PolitiFact’s claims?

Nope. Same thing. According to Wikipedia, it extended the tax cuts from 2001 and 2003 for two years.

The Act centers on a temporary, two-year reprieve from the sunset provisions of the Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2001 (EGTRRA) and the Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003 (JGTRRA), together known as the “Bush tax cuts.” Income taxes would have returned to Clinton administration-era rates in 2011 had Congress not passed this law.

So this “tax cut” also merely kept the Bush tax cuts in place for two years. It did not cut taxes. In fact, this mere two-year reprieve of the taxes being increased is what led to the 2012 one above.

Both of them kept rates the same. They did not cut taxes.

The Reagan tax cuts might have been higher, it’s hard to find firm, inflation-adjusted numbers there. But the last line in Politifact has the most interesting twist.

Did the Trump tax cuts actually only cut $150 billion? I could not find that number and PolitiFact did not cite it or provide a link — which is pretty sloppy for a fact-checking outfit. I did, however, find plenty of much higher numbers by liberal outfits painting the picture of how irresponsible the tax cuts were.

One of those, the Tax Policy Center, said the tax cuts amounted to $275 billion — much more than expected. Of course, they were making the case then that the tax cuts were not paying for themselves as the GOP had promised, so the much higher number was convenient for that.

So it looks like on every, single element of their conclusion that Trump was wrong on the tax cuts, they were wrong.

But we should totally trust Politifact.


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: 2020election; dnctalkingpoint; dnctalkingpoints; election2020; florida; incometaxes; mediawingofthednc; orlando; partisanmediashills; politifact; presstitutes; smearmachine; taxcutsandjobsact; taxreform; tcja

1 posted on 06/24/2019 6:58:04 AM PDT by Liberty7732
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Liberty7732

You wonder how closely tied Politifact is to one George Soros....


2 posted on 06/24/2019 7:02:37 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Liberty7732

PolitiFact fact-check is as lame as Snopes, or worse. Just another tool of lefties to distort the truth.


3 posted on 06/24/2019 7:06:25 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys all aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Liberty7732

Politifact wrong who knew.

/s


4 posted on 06/24/2019 7:07:23 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RayChuang88

It’s owner is the Poynter Institute/Times Publishing. Some interesting stuff there....


5 posted on 06/24/2019 7:07:48 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds,)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: mewzilla

Isn’t Politi-Fact an arm of the Tampa Bay Times? Hard Left rag, but totally ok with the Dems.


6 posted on 06/24/2019 7:10:24 AM PDT by originalbuckeye ('In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act'- George Orwell.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Thanks Liberty7732. Politifact actually has a U in it if you pronounce it correctly.

7 posted on 06/24/2019 7:14:20 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Liberty7732
I lost all faith in several of the fact checkers before the first election of Obama. The Journolist debacle also destroyed any faith I had in the MSM. Those involved in the Journolist are still writing and spewing their trash with impunity.
8 posted on 06/24/2019 8:04:35 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SunkenCiv

Would that be pollute-a-fact?


9 posted on 06/24/2019 8:04:40 AM PDT by jurroppi1 (The Left doesnÂ’t have ideas, it has cliches. H/T Flick Lives)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: jurroppi1
That would work, but that wasn't what I was thinking of.

10 posted on 06/24/2019 8:06:03 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: originalbuckeye

It was spun off to this Poynter Institute thing.

Like I said, some really interesting stuff there. Maybe Project Veritas might wanna take a look...

(hint, hint)


11 posted on 06/24/2019 8:07:33 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds,)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: RayChuang88

Are they joined together by Soros’ money.

,p>


12 posted on 06/24/2019 8:08:05 AM PDT by sport
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Liberty7732

PolitiFact is owned by a newspaper that has NOT had ONE conservative in their newsroom in over 40 years.


13 posted on 06/24/2019 8:08:55 AM PDT by GOPJ (United States being invaded and the ONLY thing democrats care about is the comfort of the invaders?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Liberty7732

Journalists don’t let facts get in the way, so I can’t imagine they do a very good job at “factchecking” anything.


14 posted on 06/24/2019 8:13:04 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Liberty7732

bttt


15 posted on 06/24/2019 9:12:52 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SunkenCiv

I think I get it now.


16 posted on 06/24/2019 9:27:44 AM PDT by jurroppi1 (The Left doesnÂ’t have ideas, it has cliches. H/T Flick Lives)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson