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1 posted on 06/10/2019 2:15:36 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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This ALSO has the effect of making everyone who isn’t rabidly left take them that much less seriously.

Most people hate a drama queen.


2 posted on 06/10/2019 2:25:51 PM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know if Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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Well, Hitler did allow Henrich Ratjen to compete as a woman (Dora) in the 1936 Olympics. So that makes him a “good guy” in the eyes of today’s perverts.


3 posted on 06/10/2019 2:43:43 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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The DNC Playbook!

4 posted on 06/10/2019 3:00:02 PM PDT by Bommer (Help 2ndDivisionVet - https://www.gofundme.com/mvc.php?route=category&term=married-recent-ampute)
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More crap-stirring from the LA Times #RageMedia.

Far Left Media Is Making Liberals Insane, This Data Proves It

5 posted on 06/10/2019 3:34:19 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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Don Surber bravely shows his ignorance.

He probably should spend less time pontificating and devote those minutes to studying a little bit of history.


6 posted on 06/10/2019 3:58:07 PM PDT by PAR35
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Hey, the demonrats should print up cartoon flyers explaining that crossing the border will get you sent to the gas chamber and buried in mass graves. That’ll stop the caravans.


7 posted on 06/10/2019 4:50:19 PM PDT by bgill (when you badmouth women, you are badmouthing your mama and the good women on FR)
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Comparing a political opponent to Hitler is vile, vulgar, and lazy.
It is also libel or at least slander.

In 1964 the Warren Court took the occasion of the New York Times v. Sullivan case to assert that government officials cannot sue for libel or slander (without a showing of “actual malice,” which is taken as being essentially an impossible hurdle). But there are things in Heaven and earth which are not dreamt of in the Warren Court’s philosophy:

  • The wire services have homogenized journalism ideologically. Considering that, according to Adam Smith, "People of the same trade seldom meet together, even for merriment and diversion, but the conversation ends in a conspiracy against the public, or in some contrivance to raise prices” - and that the AP “wire” is a virtual meeting of major journalism - a “conspiracy against the public” among journalists was inevitable. Inevitably, such a conspiracy would entail self-serving propaganda by journalists, and that is precisely what is seen.

  • Journalism conspires to propagandize to the effect that “journalism is objective.” Now, journalists know and follow the commercial rule that “if it bleeds, it leads”- so journalists know that journalism is negative. Which means that their claim that journalism is objective is tantamount to a claim that “negativity is objectivity.” And you show me someone who says that, and I’ll show you a cynic. Objectivity is a laudable goal - but it is not a state of being.

  • Journalism is cynical about society, but (since government legitimately exists, per Thomas Paine, only to address imperfections in society) inevitably naive about government. This is, IMHO, the defining characteristic of socialism. The Democrat Party has no principle inconsistent with assiduously going along and getting along with journalism. Consequently “liberal" politicians are never libeled, and conservative officials routinely are (since Mr. Sullivan was a southern Democrat, that issue would not have come up in the Sullivan case).

  • The right to compensation for libel was recognized in the founding era, and the First Amendment does not touch it (“the” freedom of the press having existed with limitations for libel and pornography before the Constitution). Redress for libel is therefore a Ninth Amendment right. Even government officials have a right to their earned reputation, and so do their adherents - whose reputation is affected when their champion’s reputation is.

The bottom line is that the Sullivan ruling was ill-considered as a general precedent (tho it may have been correct in the particular case).


9 posted on 06/10/2019 6:52:17 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (Socialism is cynicism directed towards society and - correspondingly - naivete towards government.)
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Wow, this kleenex I just used felt a little rough, kind of like Hitler.


11 posted on 06/10/2019 6:58:29 PM PDT by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.)
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And remember all of those old newsreels from the 1930s where so many Jews were breaking into Nazi Germany.


12 posted on 06/10/2019 7:00:18 PM PDT by libertylover (Democrats hated Lincoln too.)
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We need to make Holocaust education mandatory.

Agreed.

We also need to make anti-Communist education mandatory as well: "The Gulag Archipelago" needs to be required reading.

13 posted on 06/11/2019 5:36:32 AM PDT by bassmaner (Hey commies: I'm a white male, and guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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