Posted on 05/28/2019 7:45:39 AM PDT by Liberty7732
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Liberals don’t give two sh*ts whether socialism succeeds by any economic measure... what attracts them is the absolute power the rulers of socialist countries have. That’s why they gave such effusive praise to every Soviet leader through (and especially) Gorbachev, and Fidel Castro. They deeply admire the totalitarian hold such despots have over their countries.
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Socialism = Chained
“socialism is a violation of elemental human nature that desires to build, innovate, expand and improve life”
Right. The argument against socialism is not just that the outcome is bad. Its deeper than that. Socialism infringes on individual liberty.
“socialism is a violation of elemental human nature that desires to build, innovate, expand and improve life”
Right. The argument against socialism is not just the outcome.
They change the term to make it sound better
"Democratic socialism" they will tell you it's "market socialism" which is a counter-diction in terms. It an Orwellian term similar to: Blue is red or up is down.
People forget how capitalism is supposed to work. It’s brutal, but it gets results.
Ideally, a liberty-based capitalist economy generates a small class of superrich. Below themselves is a small “middle class” of professionals and merchants - people like doctors, lawyers, shop-owners, etc. Everyone else (75% to 90% of the population) is supposed to be either hustling to get into the other classes, or just living on WHAT THEY EARN and not expecting handouts.
Welfare, student aid, public housing, etc. just weaken our society. And even if those programs “worked,” they’d still be immoral because they involve theft.
Democrats need poverty to excuse the brutal oppression they so deeply crave.
“Are we there yet? No. Are we there yet? No. Are we there yet? No......
Incompetence = the inability to relate cause to effect over time.
Also applies to those who keep trying to figure out the obviously incompetent socialists and general issue leftists.
There’s also the issue of ignorance vs stupidity.
Ignorance is not knowing. Temporary.
Stupidity is incapable of learning. Permanent.
Leftists are incompetent and stupid.
Attempting to appeal to them, appease them, reason with them, understand them, are all their own form of incompetence. And if continued, sure signs of stupidity.
“eople forget how capitalism is supposed to work. It’s brutal, but it gets results.”
I think the idea that capitalism is “brutal” is a slander based on the extreme edges of capitalism.
Really, what capitalism is — is each man or woman figuring out how best to serve his fellow man — by making a product or performing a service. The more needs you satisfy and the more you serve, the better you do.
It’s inherently Judeo-Christian, in that the core practical lesson of both religions is to serve your fellow man the best you are able.
There’s nothing brutal about that.
They’re not blind to it...THEY ARE socialist, marxist, totalitarian wannabes.
“But at its core, socialism is a violation of elemental human nature that desires to build, innovate, expand and improve life — the same nature that drives parents to be always working towards a better future for their children.”
This analyst is off the mark in saying that socialism violates human nature.
He mentions the positive aspects of human nature, but there are plenty that are not positive.
Socialism too feeds off human nature, mostly its negative aspects such as laziness, envy, shortsightedness, vice...
As Tocqueville so beautifully put it...
“There is a passion for equality that spurs all men to wish to be strong and esteemed. This passion tends to elevate the lesser to the rank of the greater. But one also finds in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to want to bring the strong down to their level [Class Warfare], and which reduces men to preferring equality in servitude to inequality in freedom.”
It is that “depraved taste for equality” that so many humans possess that feed socialist policies.
The man had a way with words.
I've come to that conclusion as well. So did George Orwell, himself a socialist when he wrote in Road To Wigan Pier:
The truth is that, to many people calling themselves Socialists, revolution does not mean a movement of the masses with which they hope to associate themselves; it means a set of reforms which 'we', the clever ones, are going to impose upon 'them', the Lower Orders.
His own conclusion was that the biggest (but not the only) problem with socialism was socialists:
The fact is that Socialism, in the form in which it is now presented, appeals chiefly to unsatisfactory or even inhuman types. On the one hand you have the warm-hearted un-thinking Socialist, the typical working-class Socialist, who only wants to abolish poverty and does not always grasp what this implies. On the other hand, you have the intellectual, book-trained Socialist, who understands that it is necessary to throw our present civilization down the sink and is quite willing to do so. And this type is drawn, to begin with, entirely from the middle class, and from a rootless town-bred section of the middle class at that. Still more unfortunately, it includes - so much so that to an outsider it even appears to be composed of - the kind of people I have been discussing; the foaming denouncers of the bourgeoisie, and the more-water-in-your-beer reformers of whom Shaw is the prototype, and the astute young social-literary climbers who are Communists now, as they will be Fascists five years hence, because it is all the go, and that dreary tribe of high-minded women and sandal-wearers and bearded fruit-juice drinkers who come nocking towards the smell of 'progress' like bluebottles to a dead cat.
I'm sensing a certain disaffection here...
A planned economy seems attractive to people think THEY would be doing the planning.
Political correctness is communist propaganda writ small. In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, nor to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is to co-operate with evil, and in some small way to become evil oneself. One's standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to.
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