Posted on 03/22/2019 11:52:59 AM PDT by OddLane
The Irish backstop was a way to have Brexit while still honoring the Good Friday agreement that the UK signed in the 90s that brought an eens to violence in Northern Ireland
It is funny you put William Wallace there. Scotland votes overwhelmingly o Remain in the EU and now they will have a referendum to get the nation of Scotlands freedom from the English union
The UK is nit a nation but a union of four nations: England, Scotland, wales ans northern Ireland. It also includes the culturally amd linguistically distinct channel islands and isle of Mann.
You are kidding. There has been a republic ig Ireland independent of the UK and a northern Ireland since 1920
somehow the history books are going to describe the 2016 referendum and then whatever result may is trying to drag the UK towards. if that latter is different from the former, the history books will need to supply a plausible reason for the change or portray may as working against the will of the people. if the history books take to may’s defense, then imho they must portray the voting public as somehow being mistaken or fooled or stupid. may needs to go to hard brexit if she is to avoid this quandary but imho watching her “walk” it seems like she is trying to evade that.
yikes...
somehow the history books are going to describe the 2016 referendum and then whatever result may is trying to drag the UK towards. if that latter is different from the former, the history books will need to supply a plausible reason for the change or portray may as working against the will of the people. if the history books take to may’s defense, then imho they must portray the voting public as somehow being mistaken or fooled or stupid. may needs to go to hard brexit if she is to avoid this quandary but imho watching her “walk” it seems like she is trying to evade that.
yikes...
The EU exit negotiations for UK were always designed to punish the UK as much as possible, if you don’t understand that you are grossly misinformed.
Which is why every single exit proposal has FAILED to get the votes in Parliament.
The EU knows if leaving the EU is not painful, then other nations will leave too... so, making sure any agreement that they allow you to leave will be detrimental to the UK. The EU never had any intention of motivation to negotiate in good faith with the UK for leaving the EU, because a painless exit will just encourage Hungary and other nations to leave too..
Britain should have been planning for a hard BREXIT from day one.
How in your opinion were they more painful? The EU has the four freedoms of people, goods, services and capital as sacrosanct. If you want one you get all four, no deal just for one. And the EU was adamant that Irelands concerns about the border would not be overrun by the UK. That’s hoe a club protects its weakest members.
How, in your opinion was the negotiation painful? You do realize that the EU needs to look out fpr its own interests just as the USA does.
And Hungary has one of the highest pro EU approval rates among eu countries
We’re not all such brilliant people with boring lives that know/read everything like yourself :)
Some advice: actual humans are better than books :)
Ciao!!
But I don’t comment my opinions on things I don’t know about. I have zero opinion on many many topics as I don’t know anything about them and don’t comment on what I don’t know.
Too many have a warped idea of Brexot and think it is the EU holding back the UK when it is rather the UK creating its own chaos.
Ditto for the Northern Ireland problem.
Whether I am a member of that party or not is no one’s business!!
:)
Surely, there’s a Maggie Thatcher/Ronnie Reagan/DJT SOMEWHERE over there!
Thatcher disagreed with the idea of using referendums. She supported and campaigned for the UK’s continued membership of the EEC. She did this because she saw all the advantages of a European Single Market and knew that Britain needed to be in it but she resisted, often very successfully, attempts to commit the UK to those parts of the European project she didn’t like. She negotiated an indefinite rebate from the EU budget for the UK and obtained specific opt-outs on nearly every treaty that was drafted, including most notably the Maastricht treaty. She was committed to making Europe work for Britain, rather than the other way around.
Thatcher’s unshakeable resolve (some may say intransigence) paved the way for further opt-outs later on. The stall she set made it easier for the UK and others to decline involvement in the single currency, something the people of Denmark and Sweden are still grateful for. Her attitude to Europe was that we needed to have a seat at the top table so they could use it to get the UKs own way.
Brexit throws all that away. All the concessions the UK has obtained from the EU and all the influence the UK Government has had in its design are now for nothing.
Thatcher would have been appalled.
Maybe that is what finally gets you guys to revolt.
Maybe then, but in today’s situation, I’d guess not.
She wouldn’t get in today’s situation. As I said, she was smart and realized that it was better to br in the club and force the eu to give the uk opt outs. Which is what happened, the UK got so many opt outs it causes resentment, but Mrs. Thatcher got them and kept good relations. She got her way by being part of the eu
Revolt and replace May with what? Communism?
If you dpnt see the revolt against here would oust a socialist, that she is, well, thers no hope.
The revolt needs to get rid of the socialism infecting your damn country and letting foreign muzzie invaders attack and kill you at will.
Not really ,my Friend.
This is pure Horse Whiskey.
I go into belt-fed minor annoyance mode when this Cr*p comes up. Rather annoyed with these egits, now. :)
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