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Famine to feast: North Korean defectors awestruck by food choices in South
The Manchester Guardian ^ | December 24, 2018 | Benjamin Haas in Seoul

Posted on 01/06/2019 8:46:02 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Lee Oui-ryuk was on the verge of dying of starvation when he stole a block of tofu in a market in North Korea at the height of a nationwide famine. Too weak to run away after he swiped the food, Lee continued eating as the seller cried and beat him with a metal rod, staining the white tofu red with his blood.

At nine years old he knew the theft would end in violence, but in his head he repeated over and over: “Even if you are beaten, keep eating.” He eventually passed out and when he awoke, took a morsel that remained on his hand to his sister.

“Even today I don’t have the words to describe the hunger,” Lee said. “My head was too big for my body because I was so malnourished and my neck couldn’t support the weight, which meant my head was always at a slant.”

More than two decades later Lee is no longer starving. The 31-year-old lives in Seoul, the capital of South Korea, where he can have virtually any dish delivered to his home with a few taps on his smartphone. But his experiences in the North forever changed his relationship with food and he often craves dishes invented by a chronically hungry nation.

“In North Korea every single thing I ate was related to my life, and even the smallest things would seem really big,” he said. “But here I just eat food because it’s a part of living.”

Many of the roughly 30,000 North Korean refugees living in the South are awestruck when they first arrive at seeing supermarkets stocked with items unseen back home. But they also find it difficult to cope with the plethora of choice and still carrying the trauma of growing up hungry.

(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...


TOPICS: Agriculture; Business/Economy; Food; Government
KEYWORDS: china; food; japan; korea; maga; mongolia; northkorea; pyongyang; republicofkorea; russia; socialism; southkorea
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Communism like totally works! We just have to give it enough chances hmm hmmmm...


21 posted on 01/06/2019 10:41:26 PM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Until Hillary is in jail, equal justice under the law will not exist in the USA)
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To: BeauBo
I worked with (and later dated) a Chinese woman who told me about witnessing Mao's followers who would go from house to house, searching for anything they could loot, and beating the residents if they didn't have anything to surrender. She was a young girl who watched as her mother and grandmother got hung upside down in their own kitchen, and had the soles of their feet beaten with a rod, until they "confessed" things that didn't happen, or gave up whatever valuables they didn't have left anyway. We visited that house when we went to GuangDong province together a decade ago.

But surely OUR Socialists will be nice to we Deplorables in the years after they take over. Right? THIS time, they'll get it right, for sure!!

22 posted on 01/06/2019 10:46:36 PM PST by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: BeauBo

You would think with all the horrific history of communism that people would viciously protest and attack anyone who even remotely supported it. But no, instead, incredibly, we have morons that elect BLATANT communists into office, over and over.


23 posted on 01/06/2019 10:49:40 PM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Until Hillary is in jail, equal justice under the law will not exist in the USA)
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To: beaversmom

Look at this North Korean woman....

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh4CtTGAzKw


24 posted on 01/06/2019 10:53:43 PM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Until Hillary is in jail, equal justice under the law will not exist in the USA)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Thanks 2ndDivisionVet .

25 posted on 01/06/2019 10:54:46 PM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I was just reading about the Holodomor - the famine in the Ukraine that Stalin deliberately caused in 1932 and 1933. Up to 12 million Ukrainians starved to death, with widespread reports of cannibalism.

There are similar reports of cannibalism in the midst of the famine of 1959-1961 that killed about 13 million Chinese during Mao's Great Leap Forward lunacy.

Starvation is a horrible way to die, and starving people will go to desperate lengths to get something, anything into their bellies. Communist governments have given millions of unfortunate people this experience.
26 posted on 01/06/2019 11:00:39 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

27 posted on 01/06/2019 11:01:42 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

That woman is the dangerous combination of confidence,and stupidity and doesn’t know she’s stupid.

Unfortunately lots of people fall for this crap. I bet she’s in Congress until she dies.


28 posted on 01/06/2019 11:02:23 PM PST by Aria
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To: elcid1970

I read Belyenkos book. To see for himself it wasn’t being shown a Potemkin Village he asked his handlers to take him to a ‘’lower class’’ place to eat. They took him to a kind of shabby place in a low rent hood and even there he found an abundance of good food.


29 posted on 01/06/2019 11:39:41 PM PST by jmacusa (Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Socialists hate abundance because you have to get off your ass and work for it. They think fancy slogans and dialectics will make it happen by magic. Or killing lots of people who don’t believe in socialist magic.


30 posted on 01/06/2019 11:42:40 PM PST by jmacusa (Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: jmacusa

Living proof that we can have anything here including health care and a secure border. If the Works have no food and we have an abundance what does that tell you about the systems we live under? Some don’t want to hear it.


31 posted on 01/07/2019 12:04:18 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The HU - Wolf Totem
32 posted on 01/07/2019 1:02:14 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Blood of Tyrants

They (Liberals) refuse to believe that socialism cannot work and believe that “right people” aren’t in charge.


The reason the ‘right people’ aren’t in charge is an inherent flaw in socialism itself. The ‘right people’ are generally those that support the beginning of the socialist revolution.

However, once the actual leadership is established and comes to power, that leadership has to identify those they can trust from those they cannot.

Those that cannot be trusted are those same ‘right people’ who now, in the eyes of the leadership, have betrayed their country to achieve the socialist cause. What is to stop those people from betraying the socialist revolution as well? So ‘right people’ are put to death and, in the end, there are no ‘right people’ remaining because they are all dead.

Today’s ill-educated leftists cannot imagine such a fate befalling them, primarily because they are ill-educated, never having read and studied history. So they blithely push for the destruction of a system of government they do not understand for another system of government they do not understand, but makes them feel proud, superior, smart, intellectual, with it, among the glitterati, powerful, in touch, awake. But in succeeding, ultimately dead ...


33 posted on 01/07/2019 2:54:44 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Seaplaner

“and when they were taken to an American super market (I’ll paraphrase here, but this is quite close) they began to cry and said in Russian that their lives had been wasted.”

Back in the late 1970s a friend of mine had her grandmother in from Yugoslavia. I was with them when we visited our local mega-Mart. First she started filling her cart with everything she could see. I asked why and was told the old lady was convinced it would all be gone soon.

Her granddaughter explained it was like this every day and she started crying and repeating the same phrase over and over. I asked what she was saying.

“Lies...it’s all lies.”

L


34 posted on 01/07/2019 3:03:49 AM PST by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I myself have no clue what real deprivation is and only get a hint from storys like this.


35 posted on 01/07/2019 3:59:45 AM PST by PCPOET7
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To: yesthatjallen

Easily the most horrible book I’ve ever read including those detailing Stalingrad and the aftermath. Your never forget it. Should be req’d reading.


36 posted on 01/07/2019 4:30:04 AM PST by gbaker
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To: elcid1970

I knew a Russian women who was convinced of the same thing - except it was even funnier. The store she thought was a government run grocery store for ‘elites’ was an old Winn Dixie in a marginal neighborhood...


37 posted on 01/07/2019 4:46:41 AM PST by GOPJ (The Left hungers for victims to justify its inflated self-importance & greed for power. Greenfield)
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To: Ladysforest

You’re in my prayers... sorry that was done to you.


38 posted on 01/07/2019 4:48:20 AM PST by GOPJ (The Left hungers for victims to justify its inflated self-importance & greed for power. Greenfield)
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To: Ladysforest

How horribly sad. Evil is not confined by borders but by character of souls. I hope you are okay now and have people in your life that love you, and more importantly, that you love. I know the pain will never go away, but turn it into a weapon to help those you love the most.


39 posted on 01/07/2019 5:04:20 AM PST by ExpatCanuck
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I was walking through my local grocery when the store manager was talking to the meat dept. manager. Apparently some Russian dignitaries were visiting the next day, and the store manager wanted the meat cases packed full with nothing left in the back. He wanted them to see what abundance looked like.


40 posted on 01/07/2019 6:51:48 AM PST by Grammy (Save the earth... it's the only planet with chocolate.)
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