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John Dingell: to fix Congress, abolish the Senate
VOX ^ | December 4, 2018 | Dylan Matthews

Posted on 12/06/2018 1:16:25 PM PST by C19fan

John Dingell knows a thing or two about how Congress works. First elected to the US House of Representatives at age 29 in a 1955 special election, Dingell left office in January 2015, nearly 60 years later. The last president he served with, Barack Obama, was born six years after Dingell entered office. His tenure was the longest in the history of the House or Senate, outlasting stalwarts like Strom Thurmond and Ted Kennedy by more than a decade.

So his call to abolish the Senate, announced in an Atlantic excerpt from his new memoir, is pretty notable.

He pairs the proposal with a set of more familiar, often vague good-government suggestions, like “the elimination of money in campaigns,” automatic voter registration, and “protection of an independent press.” Abolishing the Senate is far more specific and dramatic than the rest of his list. His argument is familiar, rooted in the institution’s failure to equally represent Americans regardless of where they live:

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TOPICS: History; Politics
KEYWORDS: congress; constitution; dnctalkingpoint; dnctalkingpoints; dylanmatthews; johndingell; mediawingofthednc; michigan; partisanmediashills; presstitutes; smearmachine; theatlantic; vox
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To: C19fan

I grew up near that senile old POS downriver ‘rat (metro Detroit).. Never did like that SCUMBAG.

ESAD Dingellberry.


21 posted on 12/06/2018 2:01:08 PM PST by PGalt
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To: C19fan

If the Senate were abolished, I imagine several of the states with small populations would leave the union. That was part of the bargain to get agreement on the Constitution.


22 posted on 12/06/2018 2:08:44 PM PST by rcofdayton
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To: C19fan

Good thing you have no power to do it you nutcase.59 years in the House and you learned nothing.


23 posted on 12/06/2018 2:08:59 PM PST by Fungi
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To: C19fan

“So his call to abolish the Senate, announced in an Atlantic excerpt from his new memoir, is pretty notable.”

Or, it could just the garbled gibberish spilling out of his age-addled mind...

Just sayin’...


24 posted on 12/06/2018 2:14:59 PM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. Mr Trump, we've got your six.)
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To: bigbob
Dingle and Barry go together like pain and ass.

"What about Dingle-Norwood?"

25 posted on 12/06/2018 2:19:59 PM PST by DaBroasta
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To: C19fan

To protect an independent press, you have to have an independent press, not one that is beholden to one party.


26 posted on 12/06/2018 2:22:33 PM PST by Ingtar
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To: C19fan

It is good that these totalitarian bolsheviks feel comfortable enough to speak plainly of their hatred for the Constitution, and by extension their hatred of the Declaration, and by extension their hatred of the nation. Alas, I believe their animus towards the founding principles is shared by a majority of the populace. We were perhaps a center-right nation until Bush 41 who began dismantling the Reagan Legacy on Day One (his inaugural address was a direct repudiation of Reagan and a cheer for the swamp), but four decades of relentless success by the cultural marxists and their iron-fisted control over every single societal institution suggests the future will be a challenge for us patriots, and once again the tree of liberty will need to be nourished.


27 posted on 12/06/2018 2:26:15 PM PST by crusher (GREEN: Globaloney for the Gullible)
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To: C19fan; All
"John Dingell knows a thing or two about how Congress works."
FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

With all due respect to former Sen. Dingell, he knows how the corrupt, post-17th Amendment ratification Congress works.

In other words Dingell is likely clueless that the Founding States had intended for citizens to work government social spending programs through their respective state government, not the feds.

The hold-up is that the states won’t find the revenues to compete with federal social spending programs until patriots support Pres. Trump in working with the states to repeal the 16th and ill-conceived 17th Amendments. This is because the corrupt feds use those amendments to steal state revenues though unconstitutional federal taxes in order to pay for unconstitutional, vote-winning federal social spending programs.

Also, patriots are encouraged to watch Dan Borgino’s excellent 37 min video (associated book). The video helps to flesh out the alleged Mueller conspiracy against Pres. Trump.


28 posted on 12/06/2018 3:04:04 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: C19fan

Wasn’t this the plot of Palpatine in Star Wars?


29 posted on 12/06/2018 3:19:51 PM PST by Caipirabob (Communists...Socialists...Fascists & AntiFa...Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: HenpeckedCon
It can be done. You just need 2/3’s of both houses of Congress and it must be ratified by only 50 states.

Incorrect.

It must be ratified by 3/4 of the states. Currently 38 states are required.

30 posted on 12/06/2018 3:31:58 PM PST by Calvinist_Dark_Lord
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To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord

Nope, the US Senate isn’t an amendment. It’s in the Constitution itself. It requires 50 states.


31 posted on 12/06/2018 3:39:42 PM PST by HenpeckedCon (Covfefe Trump!)
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To: HenpeckedCon
Nope, the US Senate isn’t an amendment. It’s in the Constitution itself. It requires 50 states.

Actually, it requires 3/4 of the states as i mentioned above. To remove the US Senate from the legislative branch requires constitutional amendment since it is established by the Constitution. It can not be done by legislative fiat.

Dingle is an idiot.

32 posted on 12/06/2018 4:22:01 PM PST by Calvinist_Dark_Lord
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To: HenpeckedCon

Right

Not happening


33 posted on 12/06/2018 4:43:48 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you .)
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To: HombreSecreto

But not as stupid as the voters that punished the US for 60 years.


34 posted on 12/06/2018 6:00:25 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (Start using cash and checks or the elite class and bankers will make "cashless" the norm.)
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To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord

Actually the Senate (or rather the equal representation of each state in the Senate cannot be altered by a Constitutional Amendment—it’s specifically mentioned in Article V which deals with amendments. All (that would be 50) of the states would have to agree to it. Practically speaking the only way of getting rid of the Senate is getting rid of the Constitution itself.

Of course that might be what they really want. The Constitution, written by dead white men, has all of those outdated ideas like God-given rights, the electoral college, the 2nd Amendment just seems to get in the way of “progress”.


35 posted on 12/06/2018 6:45:00 PM PST by hanamizu
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
The parasite and demagogue served for 60 years -- what we need is TERM LIMITS, and the outlawing of his political party.

36 posted on 12/07/2018 12:55:52 AM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord
Incorrect. It must be ratified by 3/4 of the states. Currently 38 states are required

Wrong.

The Amendment power does not extend to abolishing the Senate. That is forbidden by Article V.

37 posted on 12/07/2018 1:02:14 AM PST by Jim Noble (Freedom is the freedom to say that 2+2 = 4)
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To: C19fan

Many have said our congress is an uncontrolled mass of humanity divided in two bodies with a common goal-—remain in office at all costs. They are much too numerous as only about 25 senators and around 40 house members ever accomplish a damned thing. Reduce the size of both with term limits.


38 posted on 12/07/2018 5:01:20 PM PST by BTCM (Death and destruction is the only treaty Muslims comprehend.)
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To: C19fan

To fix Cogress: outlaw liberals and RINOs.


39 posted on 12/08/2018 1:01:04 PM PST by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")
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