[SJSAMPLE]

I’m fond of the 10/22, but you don’t need the take-down version. Removing the screw that holds the receiver to the stock would be enough to create a shortened rifle capable of easier carry.

[papertyger]

After much study I’m convinced the role survival rifle is best filled by modern medium to large bore air rifles.

Energy on target rivals that of the .22. They are legal to suppress without government interference. The ammunition weights only a fraction of rifle cartridges. And finally, accessories, as well as the rifles themselves, are usually MUCH more economical.

[dinodino]

This article is really goofy. The author suggests that a lever-action .45-70 is a good choice for a survival rifle. Really?

[painter]

When my youngest son earned his Eagle Scout badge I got him a Henry AR-7 rifle. What it doesn't say it also floats. So if you drop it in water you won't loose it.

It is a good little rifle, fun to shoot. Accurate, you might have to do some sight adjustment.

[pfflier]

To me, There are three criteria a SHTF weapon must meet.

Ruggedness and reliability first. The weapon must be able to be usable immediately under any conditions, extended storage without maintenance, hot, cold, dirty or dropped.

The second criteria is accuracy over all ranges of use, close combat to long range defense.

A third consideration is ammunition availability. Since most LE and military rifles use 5.56, a weapon that can use that ammunition can be used with whatever is dropped or discarded. You could also use the same presumption for 9 mm too but I am assuming we are talking rifle rounds.

[I got the rope]

I like the Marlin 981T. Bolt action is easier to clean. You can load it with Calibri .22 shorts and have a near silent weapon too. You can also load it with some CCI minimag and take down a deer(yes..I have done that too).

You can’t load .22 shorts wont feed in a 10/22 by the way.

Ammo is heavy. You can carry a lot of .22lr in a bag though.

[Manly Warrior]

Definitions are important.

SHTF , meaning a gun needed for gathering a bit of food ( squirrels/birds, wood chucks, or protection against major predators/ 2 or 4 legged?

Maybe the ubiquitous 12 ga pump/semi riot gun, ammo from 7 1/2 to slug for anything and everything.

Or maybe the AR with reduced loads ( manually operated) that shoot to POA/POI at 25 yds for small game and then full up tactical ammo for everything up to deer/man+... Can be done in either 223/556 or 308/762 variants.

Notice the 22LR is missing from my list. Except maybe in a 22 revolver or pistol for close in smalls.

One gun only? The AR in 223 with suggested ammo types.

[NTHockey]

The best survival weapon is the one you have; not the one you wish you had. A Trapdoor Springfield is better than no gun at all. An M-1 is heavy and slow but it does the job.

[Georgia Girl 2]

Of all our rifles if I had to make the hard choice I would go with our Ruger 10-22. Followed closely by our AR and AK.

[yarddog]

Later.

[steel_resolve]

Ping

[dangerdoc]

I think a PCC should be on the list.

[lurk]

It’s a good list of rifles. But the chief consideration is ammo. Put 1000 rounds of centerfire in your backpack and go for a mile walk. Then do the same with 1000 rounds of 22LR. Ask yourself which one had better portability.

[Roccus]

No bug-out guns here.....only ANTI bug-out guns to protect me and mine from the bugger-outers.

[Carriage Hill]

Better put a Remy Foam Cell Pad on the Henry’s .45-70 rifle, or you’ll pay a price for it, next day.

[Charles Martel]

I like the 10/22 Takedown with the integral suppressor, but I already have a takedown with a threaded muzzle so a suppressor could be added as I see fit. One thing I've noted is that the takedown latch and its adjustment knob do not provide the same level of barrel-receiver lockup as the standard model - it is best if used with all sights or scope mounts on the barrel, forget about receiver mounted rear sights and scopes.

However, as takedown .22 rimfire rifles go, I'd probably have a hard time reaching past the Marlin 39A (Mountie carbine) to get the 10/22. The 39A and its predecessors have been made as a takedown since 1897 with few changes. The company even ran a print ad detailing how a Model 39 was used by Filipino guerrillas to kill Japanese soldiers during WWII - that's about as "SHTF" as you can get.

[Yosemitest]

Try to beat FOUR POINT SEVEN POUNDS carry weigh of the Kel-Tec SU-16C .

Attn World: The KelTec SU-16 Does Not Suck [2016 Review] ( 43:20 )
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cy Published on Mar 28, 2010

That's a lot of technical review and comparison.

[yarddog]

It is hard to define what a survival gun is.

I remember reading a book by a former Luftwaffe commander. He mentioned that German bombers in WWII carried a drilling in case they were downed in the middle of nowhere. They were intended to be used to hunt game. I wonder if any were ever used for that purpose?

Back in the 50s or maybe early 60s, I read an article about survival after an Armageddon type event. It was written by Erle Stanley Gardner, the Perry Mason author.

He recommended a Smith & Wesson Masterpiece in .22 LR with a six inch barrel. I know Gardner did most of his writing in a trailer in the middle of nowhere. I guess it would have been handy for shooting rabbits etc.

I really can’t foresee any scenario where I would need anything other than a 12 guage or maybe a .22 rifle. I used to keep a Redhawk in .44 mag in my pickup. I actually used it a couple of times in Western, KS but just for fun.

[Osage Orange]

What?

Did you read this before you posted?