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How to rethink our borders: Why some activists think it’s time for fully open borders.
Vox ^ | November 7, 2018 | Dylan Matthews and Byrd Pinkerton

Posted on 11/08/2018 4:53:42 PM PST by C19fan

A victory for Democrats this midterms, President Donald Trump warned before the election, is a victory for a terrible, dangerous idea: open borders. Trump is entirely making this up, to be clear, but he’s hammered this point repeatedly. “The Democrat platform is a 2018 socialism, open borders edict,” he declared at a rally in Cleveland the night before the election. In October, he informed a Kansas crowd that “Every single Democrat in the U.S. Senate has signed up for the open borders, and it’s a bill, it’s called the ‘open borders bill.’” (No, they haven’t, and there’s no such bill.) Democrats, he tweeted in June, “want Open Borders and Unlimited Crime.” (While “Unlimited Crime” is a cool band name, it’s not a real proposal.) The US does not have anything resembling open borders, and no major politician in the US wants to have open borders. But Fabio Rojas does want open borders, and on the latest episode of the Future Perfect podcast, he tells us why.

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TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: aliens; communism; honduras; illegals; invaders; mexico; migrants; openborders; socialism
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To: TADSLOS

Spirit of antichrist, as I always say.

I believe some portion of the Strong Delusion has already begun.

I know a guy online. Ordinarily a reasonably-decent guy.

Last night I’m talking to him (online basically). Two things:

1) He obviously hates President Trump.
2) Obama is a wonderful speaker and quite intelligent.

I started telling him about Bible Prophecy and all the stuff going on in the world.

He doesn’t know anything about any of that.

It’s just a matter of time, I’m sorry to say. It is prophesied. It will come to pass.

I won’t set a date. But 1/2 of this country still amazes me with their stupidity. They truly are blind. We certainly do live in interesting times, as they say.


21 posted on 11/08/2018 5:13:53 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: C19fan

So does that mean we can go freely into Mexico or Canada???

Of course not. They have immigration restrictions.


22 posted on 11/08/2018 5:14:45 PM PST by kaehurowing
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To: C19fan

Why? To end the United States. That’s the obvious answer since that’s the main result that would occur. It’s too evil, bigoted, imperialistic, and wealthy according to them anyway.

The more detailed answer might include to redistribute our wealth to the world, to bankrupt all our welfare programs, to drive wages into the dirt, to overwhelm our infrastructure, to create housing shortages, to destroy our environment, to have classrooms with 100 students per teacher, to eliminate any concept of American culture and tradition, to make hard drugs flow freely, to exponentially increase our gang population, and to have a totally disconnected, easy to control populace?


23 posted on 11/08/2018 5:16:02 PM PST by FenwickBabbitt
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To: C19fan

I recently got an “invitation” from “The Economist” to subscribe to their journal, based on the assumption that I (a Harvard Ph.D., etc.) fit their demographic.

Their assumptions for why I should like their journal is—among other things—that I “support open borders”. NOTHING can be further from the truth!!!!

Here is more about “The Economist”:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Economist

It is obviously an elitist, internationalist, globalist journal!!

The main impetus for the “open borders” program comes not from organizations like La Raza or from the far-left wing of the Democrat Party, but from the elitist globalist cabal, such as those who meet in Davos, and those who form the upper castes of the Washington Swamp (and the EU Swamp, etc.)

Open-borders Dims are mere dupes of the globalist elites, and NO ONE should listen to their ill-informed nonsense!!!!

It is good that we Americans have a populist conservative President, Donald Trump, and that an increasing number of countries throughout the world are turning to populist conservatism, as well as embracing the Christian faith!!!!

In America, “open borders” is a formula for turning the USA into a Third World country!! NEVER!!!!

Build that Wall!!!!


24 posted on 11/08/2018 5:17:07 PM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: FenwickBabbitt; kaehurowing; null and void

Just my $0.02 but there are basically two strong entities that resist the NWO.

1) The United States - by electing President Donald Trump - it went against the NWO plans. Hillary, Obama and the NWO Bush family are already on board. Gee, and they’re all friends and hate the President. What a surprise.

2) Israel.

Since the Man of Sin goes after Israel in the End Times, I say the last (significant) domino to fall is the U.S.A. There are other small countries like Poland and Hungary but they don’t have the military machine and wealth (so to speak) of the U.S.A.

That is what we are up against.

And yes, I wear my tinfoil shiny side out. Reflects more waves.


25 posted on 11/08/2018 5:20:29 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: txrefugee

See my post #24.

Commies and extreme leftist Dims are dupes who are not even original in their “open borders” ideas and schemes. But they are just plain TOXIC anyway!!!!

PHOOEY!!!!


26 posted on 11/08/2018 5:20:53 PM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: Behind the Blue Wall
Only libertarians can make a credible argument for this.

The make this argument in a complete vacuum thinking people are pure economic beings basically the same as widgets. No a car does not have a worldview, a religion or a political philosophy. Those people have any when you import people you bring in all that stuff.

27 posted on 11/08/2018 5:21:01 PM PST by C19fan
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To: Olog-hai

Olog-hai wrote:

The Communists are further reproached for desiring to abolish countries and nationality. …

— Manifesto, chapter 2
*This is called argumentum verbosium.* Repeating the Big Lie does not make it true; it only makes the lie bigger.

“Shout it from the rooftops!” Verbum meum, heterosupremacist


28 posted on 11/08/2018 5:21:07 PM PST by heterosupremacist (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God.)
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To: SaveFerris

Oh no, there are an increasing number of nations who are resisting the NWO.

See the YouTube channel “Turley Talks”.

https://www.turleytalks.com


29 posted on 11/08/2018 5:23:51 PM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: Honorary Serb

Yes, Brazil’s new election was good to see. (haven’t watched video yet)

Gonna come down to push-comes-to-shove I think.

Not hoping for it. But I’m not thinking it will be avoided.

And then Martial Law in a few places. Look at what Soros and co. are doing to Germany, etc.


30 posted on 11/08/2018 5:29:20 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: SaveFerris

“...and those remaining pesky Jooooos.”

LOL! THIS ‘pesky Jooo’ ain’t goin’ down without a FIGHT! ;)


31 posted on 11/08/2018 6:23:00 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin ( "Why can't you be more like Lloyd Braun?")
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To: All

I realize that members of the Socialist Democrat Party have NO critical thinking skills, but seriously? They think only THEY will somehow profit from this via votes for their party?

Pretty sure a murdering rapist from a Third World Hellhole does NOT ask for your, ‘Voter Affiliation’ before he has his ‘fun’ with you!

OMG! The abject STUPIDITY of people continues to astound me.


32 posted on 11/08/2018 6:27:58 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin ( "Why can't you be more like Lloyd Braun?")
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I know many won’t......

What seems crazy is my post is all going to come true, pretty much.

Not because >>I<< said it, mind you.....


33 posted on 11/08/2018 6:35:46 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: SaveFerris

Not only NO, but H NO!


34 posted on 11/08/2018 7:07:53 PM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: SaveFerris
Yay more Global Community. Yay One World Order. Yay One World Religion. Yay Peace in Our Time. Will that be right hand? Or forehead?

It's coming, and seems like the timetable just got moved up a few notches.

35 posted on 11/08/2018 7:21:16 PM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: SkyPilot; Texas Fossil

They’re working very hard to take down the traditional U.S.A.

It was the goal of Manchurian Candidate Barack Hussein Obama.

His sycophants carry on the “work”......


36 posted on 11/08/2018 7:25:01 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: SaveFerris

Absolutely.


37 posted on 11/08/2018 7:41:37 PM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: C19fan

uh, yes they have:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/06/18/all-senate-democrats-now-support-bill-would-prohibit-border-separations/710803002/

http://thefederalist.com/2018/06/19/democrats-border-separation-bill-let-nearly-parents-commit-federal-crimes-get-off-scot-free/


38 posted on 11/08/2018 8:21:00 PM PST by blueplum ( "...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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