"The Most Hated Verse in the Bible" (Sermon on Ephesians 5:22-33)

stmatthewbt.org ^ | August 26, 2018 | The Rev. Charles Henrickson

[Elsie]

“Do it to Julia!”

[Mom MD]

I am unaware of any Protestant Church that teaches divorce or abortion are a good thing. They are certainly not “for” these things. Picking up the broken pieces of sinners and ministering to them? You bet. We don’t lock sinners out if the church

[MeneMeneTekelUpharsin]

That is what it says. It also says in vs 25, “Husbands, love (agape in the Greek - love unconditionally) your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave himself up for her.

[Pete from Shawnee Mission]

Dang, the thirty years war breaking out again on your thread and all you wanted to do was do a sermon on today’s reading!

And thank you for that sermon. (Men and women are not equal, they are complementary!)

[squirt]

Thank You Pastor

[heterosupremacist]

Agree 100%. Fiat voluntas Tua!

[JockoManning]

Most reasonable and sane women would not have a huge problem with rational submitting to a hubby who was quite demonstrably regularly showing he is willing to lay down his life for her as Christ did the Church.

And, Hubby's are wise to listen to their wives, else God says, he won't listen to hubby's prayers.

This, of course, tends to assume that the men and their wives are more or less rational, more or less sane and more or less free of serious attachment disorder. Trouble is, in this day and age, those assumptions tend to be 180 degrees opposite of the reality. Hence, there's nothing even close to a healthy balancing of the Scriptural balance in the home.

And control freaks born out of RAD (attachment disorder) are already failing to follow the Scriptural relationship boundaries and exhortations--so they have no leg to stand on trying to use Scripture to justify their tyrannical reign over another person. GOD ALONE deserves that kind of clout in a person's life.

[IrishBrigade]

‘I pray that the Lord gives us the leaders we need; nevertheless, not my will, but Thine.’

it would probably work out better if you actually voted for such leaders of your own volition...

[Migraine]

Your opinion is amazing.

I find it works out better if I do both — pray AND vote. They are not mutually exclusive.

[dila813]

It is sickening that they don’t understand this as a passage of love and commitment.

To the left, they think a traditional relationship is about slavery not love.

[21twelve]

“This is just Paul the woman-hater, who was captive to the culture of his day.”

Our pastor gave a sermon the other week about Deborah (a Judge/ruler back in the O.T.). As an aside he spoke about how some folks pick some of the verses that make women seem subservient, but how the Bible uses powerful women throughout history.

“And some people make some of the ‘subservient’ verses to just be due to their ‘backwards’ culture. I don’t think we can or should do that. Then ANYTHING that we find difficult can be explained by ‘culture’. Like taking care of the poor and the widows. ‘Well - that was back then. NOW that’s the government’s problem - not mine!”

[Theophilus]

Amen by the grace of God!