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Declassified: Did Rosenstein Make False Statements to the FISA Judge?
American Thinker ^ | August 11, 2018 | Allan J. Favish

Posted on 08/11/2018 2:38:11 AM PDT by AJFavish

Journalist Paul Sperry tweeted on August 5, 2018 that we should look this month for President Donald Trump to "declassify 20 redacted pages of the June 2017 FISA renewal." Sperry is referring to a Portable Document Format file released on July 21, 2018 by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, which contains heavily redacted versions of four Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrant applications to conduct surveillance of Carter Page, who had been a foreign policy adviser to presidential candidate Donald Trump. Even with the redactions, the June 2017 warrant application is damning for deputy United States attorney general Rod Rosenstein.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: fisa; page; rosenstein; steele
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1 posted on 08/11/2018 2:38:11 AM PDT by AJFavish
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Whoopee. He will never be prosecuted. Sleepy Sessions won’t put a single DOJ/FBI official before a grand jury. It is futile. Only Republicans will be subject to bankruptcy and defamation from witch hunts. The genuinely corrupt and colluding with get off scott free.

There is no justice in America anymore. We are now a thoroughly corrupt nation, like any other banana republic.


2 posted on 08/11/2018 2:48:45 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (End the Mueller Gestapo now. Free the Donald.)
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To: AJFavish

Boy, that really flips the whole thing around. None of the whole Muller thing occurs without lies to start it.


3 posted on 08/11/2018 2:52:14 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: AJFavish

Boy, that really flips the whole thing around. None of the whole Muller thing occurs without lies to start it.


4 posted on 08/11/2018 2:52:15 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: AJFavish
If we believe his testimony to Congress, none of the statements in the warrant application is his. He didn't even read it, he just certified it. His certification is an institutional function, not a personal one.

Sort of like the buyer or purchasing agent for a company. That person enters into contracts, but it isn't a personal bond, it's institutional, representing the company's entering into a contract.

5 posted on 08/11/2018 2:57:23 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
-- We are now a thoroughly corrupt nation, like any other banana republic. --

Nonsense. Our banana puts all the others to shame. We have the best corruption money can buy, the most powerful, most difficult to stymie.

6 posted on 08/11/2018 2:59:51 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

We live in a Deep State™ bureaucratic police state that is answerable to no one. It’s the box the Uniparty politics lives in instead of vice versa.


7 posted on 08/11/2018 3:02:56 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: AJFavish

Under federal court Rule 11, an attorney’s signature on a federal court filing broadly vouches for the factual accuracy and lack of improper purpose in that filing. In concept at least, Rosenstein can be disciplined by the FISA court for a Rule 11 violation, assuming that a party with sufficient interest lodges a motion for sanctions. I am at a loss to explain precisely why the attorneys for President Trump, Carter Page, or other improper targets of the FISA process do not make such a filing.


8 posted on 08/11/2018 3:04:22 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

This is the Roman empire v.2 except ‘Caesar’ is the bureaucracy instead of the emperor.


9 posted on 08/11/2018 3:04:47 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: Rockingham

The FISA judges must have been in on it. Otherwise, they would be referring the fraud against the court to DOJ for prosecution.


10 posted on 08/11/2018 3:17:50 AM PDT by JohnnyP (Thinking is hard work (I stole that from Rush).)
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Even if the FISA judges were previously complacent or even “in on it,” the public revelation that the FISA process was abused is a mark against the judges. And — trust me on this — judges jealously guard their reputations. None of them wants to be regarded by their colleagues and the public as slow-witted or compromised and failing to protect the FISA process and Americans’ privacy against abuse. Given a chance, the FISA judges will likely act against Rosenstein and others who misled them.


11 posted on 08/11/2018 3:43:15 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Cboldt

Under federal court Rule 11, that kind of excuse is disallowed and Rosenstein is in jeopardy for signing the FISA application as an attorney without investigating and establishing its veracity as he is required to do.


12 posted on 08/11/2018 3:47:17 AM PDT by Rockingham
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The evidence has been plain to see for months. What are they waiting for?

Oh, I forgot. They don’t watch Hannity.


13 posted on 08/11/2018 3:58:19 AM PDT by JohnnyP (Thinking is hard work (I stole that from Rush).)
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To: Rockingham
-- Under federal court Rule 11, that kind of excuse is disallowed ... --

"It depends."

... certifies that to the best of the person's knowledge, information, and belief, formed after an inquiry reasonable under the circumstances ...
Federal Rules of Civil Procedure
14 posted on 08/11/2018 4:05:01 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: JohnnyP

As a rule, courts act based on pleadings filed before them by proper parties, not on media reports. To do otherwise, to invoke judicial power sua sponte, risks putting a court in the role of acting as a prosecutor.


15 posted on 08/11/2018 4:14:18 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Cboldt

Rosenstein’s testimony before Congress seems prima facie at odds with Rule 11 because it suggests that he undertook little or no inquiry into the facts and regarded his signature on FISA applications as a mere bureaucratic formality.


16 posted on 08/11/2018 4:17:18 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Rockingham
I understand, but my point is that his signature actually is, in fact, a bureaucratic function, not a personal one.

There might be legitimate practical limitations on the depth his inquiry can go, just based on the numbef of hours in a year and the number of FISA applications in a year, combined with other responsibilities on his desk, including appearing before Congress.

As far as I know, he undertook no inquiry at all, and also as far as I know, this has been the common practice for years. Other people personally compile the application, as well as negotiate with the FISA judge who happens to be on duty.

The entire FISA system is a waste of money. It doesn't curtail snooping, and the warrants are rarely used in criminal prosecutions. How much money do we pay people to compile BS applications? The primary function of them is to immunize the snooper.

17 posted on 08/11/2018 4:25:07 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: AJFavish

Sure he did, but he will not be accountable for it. Anyone close to Trump has the book thrown at them, while Hillary and her thugs are free as birds. If Trump can hold on, hopefully he will right the ship.


18 posted on 08/11/2018 4:34:37 AM PDT by kenmcg (tHE WHOLE)
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Rosenstein: “We can’t un-redact. The original has been lost. Somehow...”


19 posted on 08/11/2018 4:44:02 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck ( Socialism consumes EVERYTHING!)
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Sort of like the buyer or purchasing agent for a company. That person enters into contracts, but it isn’t a personal bond, it’s institutional, representing the company’s entering into a contract.


B.S. If he signed it, he is personally certifying it. There is no other reason for him to sign it.

Either he knows it is correct, or he believes it to be correct based on others who he trusts. If the others lied to him, they are liable.


20 posted on 08/11/2018 4:50:14 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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