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One of the purposes of a warrant is to inform the person being served that the search is legitimate, and being conducted under due process.
1 posted on 07/26/2018 5:23:33 AM PDT by marktwain
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Scary stuff. Sounds like she would have been trafficked, or raped and dead. Thank God for the brother.


2 posted on 07/26/2018 5:28:48 AM PDT by GnuThere
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Does the phrase “actions have consequences” have any meaning to most Americans today?


3 posted on 07/26/2018 5:30:10 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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“Police officers have been killed when they have attempted to serve warrants without sufficient notice. Homeowners who have shot police officers have been found not guilty by juries.”

As it should be. When the police are acting like criminals the lines are often blurred and homeowners have no choice but to defend themselves. Mistaken identities/wrong addresses further complicate these issues.


5 posted on 07/26/2018 5:41:53 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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meanwhile they’ve been arrested and charged for attempting to shoot a DEA officer :\


7 posted on 07/26/2018 5:50:04 AM PDT by Fhios (♫ Oh Where have you been Jeffy boy Jeffy boy oh where have you been charming Jeffy?)
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Good.
No Knock searches are over the top, should not be used except maybe for VERY special cases when serving a warrant would be too dangerous.

9 posted on 07/26/2018 5:53:57 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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“The war on drugs has vastly expanded the use of “no knock” warrants, which have been issued promiscuously in recent years. The mere ownership of legal firearms has been used as a premise to issue a no-knock warrant.”

You really can’t know whether it’s a home invader or a Fed when you’re woken up at 5AM and someone is shouting “DEA” or “FBI” or “police”! This policy of
“no knock” raids is obviously being copied by the regular criminals. Of course, this makes it more dangerous for the Feds and a positive feed back loop is created.

The morons at the DEA and other Federal agency should really re-consider the untoward consequences of their no knock raid requests. I really can’t have much sympathy for these Gestapo agents using Gestapo tactics so the Feds are reaping what they sow.

In WI, we even saw no-knock pre-dawn raids used as a means of collecting evidence by local Milwaukee police in a politically driven investigations driven by anti-Walker “East German” DA Chisholm


10 posted on 07/26/2018 5:54:05 AM PDT by grumpygresh (Abolish administrative law. It's regressive, medieval and unconstitutional!)
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Not that it’s easy to do real-time, but if it’s only one or two people claiming to be cops breaking into a house, it’s probably a home invasion rather than a legit search, at least that’s what I see watching TV. For a no-knock, they do want and need overwhelming force.

Either way, it’s an ugly situation.


11 posted on 07/26/2018 5:54:51 AM PDT by BobL (I drive a pick up truck because it makes me feel like a man)
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It strikes me as being kind of odd that the house and yard are fenced in.


12 posted on 07/26/2018 5:58:39 AM PDT by equaviator (`)
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Good article.


14 posted on 07/26/2018 6:02:26 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn (Chuck Schumer--giving pond scum everywhere a bad name.)
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The only reason for a “no-knock” warrant is that there is something on the other side of the door worth killing or dying for.
IMHO, “Flushing the evidence” is not a reason.
Otherwise, how do you tell a cop from a criminal?


18 posted on 07/26/2018 6:16:13 AM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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This problem has a relatively easy solution. Any police warrant party should be required to have a marked police cruiser with them.

And the instant the cops go through the house’s door, that cruiser must turn its blue and red emergency lights on, and hit the siren. Let folks know that it’s really the police out there.


19 posted on 07/26/2018 6:17:27 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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You can’t tell the difference between cops and robbers these days.


20 posted on 07/26/2018 6:22:36 AM PDT by Terry Mross (On some threads it's best to go jst inraight to the comments.)
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I guess the Feds are lucky that Manafort didn’t have a gun under his pillow. This type of ‘surprise’ invasion is fraught with danger for the Feds AND the person targeted.


21 posted on 07/26/2018 6:28:02 AM PDT by originalbuckeye ('In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act'- George Orwell.a)
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Lousy story.

I wanted to know motive; story ends up beating a dead horse. Obviously they were targeted.

Why?


22 posted on 07/26/2018 6:30:08 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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The other criminal in this case needs to be convicted on felony murder charges since his partner got killed. He needs to be put away for a long long time.


24 posted on 07/26/2018 6:37:29 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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Yep.

There are a very small number of reason why SWAT should be called out or a no knock warrant should be used.

Kidnapping might be one.

Right now most of the reasons either fall into, "we didn't want them to destroy evidence" (not a good reason) or "how else can we justify our cool toys" (really not a good reason).

This and the police tactic of tapping on the door and whispering "police" before taking a ram to the door should get all involved fired.

Especially since they have trouble at times finding the right house.

25 posted on 07/26/2018 6:40:34 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Bunnies, bunnies, it must be bunnies!! Or maybe midgets....)
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after a little research, here is the hero brother.

Good job Mr. Farley. I am sorry you were wounded and hope you have a speedy recovery.

27 posted on 07/26/2018 6:44:54 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (what a mess we got ourselves into)
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The real DEA: “Warrant? Warrant? We don’t need no stinkin’ warrant!”


34 posted on 07/26/2018 6:57:18 AM PDT by katana
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DEAd.


36 posted on 07/26/2018 7:07:09 AM PDT by moovova
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A former student was involved in something like this. He and couple of friends found a lost police officer’s badge. They then used it to “raid” a local dope dealer hoping to find money & drugs. Ended up killing their target, his mother, & his brother. Triple murder. Leader of the group got the needle, the two younger ones got 45 years. He’ll be getting out in 10 or 15 years. He was 20 when sentenced and will be 65 when released.


41 posted on 07/26/2018 7:58:25 AM PDT by hanamizu
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