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Nigel Farage Show: 19th June 2018: Should cannabis be legalised in the UK?
LBC You Tube Channel ^ | June 19, 2018 | Nigel Farage

Posted on 07/14/2018 8:42:17 PM PDT by Ken H

Nearly one hour of Nigel Farage and callers discussing cannabis legalization in the UK. He is in favor of it.


TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: cannabis; farage; marijuana; nigelfarage; pot; wod
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To: TheStickman

I just said that if you’re not under the care of a physician, there is no medically necessary reason for anyone to have access to it. Same for any medication, simple as that. Many argue the WoD should be treated as a public health issue instead of a criminal issue (at least where the user is concerned), well, here’s how it should be.

As for who I am, I am a citizen who expects the government to do its duty in protecting the public (be it from nukes, criminals or dangerous substances) and enacting fair and reasonable laws to maintain civil society.

Thank you, though I find it highly unlikely after 4 decades the depression will disappear or 32 years of severe anxiety, either. Losing the latter would be great, but the other would be like losing a large part of myself (I was about 3 or 4 when it started, perhaps earlier). I take a low-dose med for the anxiety, which keeps the worst aspects of depression much milder.

Altering my diet I doubt would help those 2 particular ailments, since I know I have a chemical imbalance. I have to be cautious with what I eat, anyhow, since I have chronic digestive problems (one of several things), possibly IBS. I’m not in touch with a GP at present, anyhow. I haven’t had a great experience with doctors.

I don’t think I’ve heard of a no-carb diet ridding one of dep/anxiety. You might want to consult with a trusted doctor to see if it’s the right course of action to try (at least to make sure you’re getting proper dietary requirements). Good luck.


61 posted on 07/16/2018 7:37:13 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Some information regarding zero carb & the carnivore diet for you to consider.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yj_Bc9hdHa0 This video is what started my interest in treating depression/anxiety via diet.

Dr Jordan Peterson & his daughter are on the carnivore diet. Both have a very long personal & family history of depression & this diet eliminated all of their symptoms/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGikB-54Lwk

Lots of testimonials here: http://meatheals.com/category/mood-mental-health/

Dr Peterson’s Daughter documents what dietary changes have done for her here: http://mikhailapeterson.com She eliminated both arthritis symptoms & her severe depression via diet as well.

Hope this info is helpful for ya. Peace be with you always.


62 posted on 07/16/2018 7:50:14 AM PDT by TheStickman (#MAGA all day every day!)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

“As for who I am, I am a citizen who expects the government to do its duty in protecting the public (be it from nukes, criminals or dangerous substances) and enacting fair and reasonable laws to maintain civil society.”

I’m for the constitutional parts of what you want gov’t to do & not the unconstitutional nanny-state BS.

I believe in the individual 1st, period.


63 posted on 07/16/2018 7:52:31 AM PDT by TheStickman (#MAGA all day every day!)
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To: NobleFree
The case is Ferguson v. City of Charleston. Brief background at this link.

http://campbelllawobserver.com/drug-testing-for-welfare-recipients-constitutional-violation-or-public-necessity/

To answer your questions:

No, I'm not interested in subtracting alcohol addicts from the mix. To clarify my double negative, alcohol addicts would be banned too.

Yes, gov bans, just like the more benign excise taxes, tend to enrich criminals. So let's end government charity, then we can talk about making drugs legal (along with abusive excise taxes).

One interesting side note on prohibition, I never knew why it took an amendment to ban alcohol, but merely a statute to ban drugs. You can add that to your quiver of disparate treatment.

64 posted on 07/16/2018 8:24:35 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: TheStickman

As I said, I believe it is “Constitutional” and far from nanny-statism. Either we have basic laws and community standards or we don’t.

RE: Carnivore diet.

I took a look at a website outlining the diet, but that would be a bit too harsh for my digestive system. Cheerios, which I eat daily sans milk, is considered a carb, and for a time when I was dreadfully ill, that was about all I could get down into my system, and without it, I’d have been in big trouble.


65 posted on 07/16/2018 8:38:24 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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To: fieldmarshaldj
The same argument could be made for legalizing all narcotics.

Yes it could - but prudence dictates we start with the most popular and least harmful illegal drug (even less harmful by many measures than the already legal drug alcohol).

Still, the ultimate goal is complete legalization across the board for all illegal narcotics.

My ultimate goal is to stop pursuing a policy whose primary effect is to enrich criminals; if removing marijuana as a criminal profit source leaves us with a war on drugs that can actually be won, that's where legalization will end.

66 posted on 07/16/2018 11:59:23 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Past-month use of marijuana was 8.9%; no other illegal drug is higher than 0.7% (https://www.samhsa.gov/sites/data/sites/default/files/NSDUH-DetTabs-2016/NSDUH-DetTabs-2016.htm#tab1-1B).


67 posted on 07/16/2018 12:12:37 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Actually, the temperance movement did most of its good before Prohibition was enacted. Education and social pressure works - the blunt instrument of law serves primarily to enrich criminals.

Again, you make the argument for removal of most laws since folks will somehow “profit” from them.

Nonsense - nobody profits from laws against murder, rape, or theft, at least not to anywhere near the degree they do from laws against drugs.

68 posted on 07/16/2018 12:15:07 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: fieldmarshaldj
No one needs tobacco, and we have a near de facto public ban on it already.

So let's have the same - but no more - for marijuana.

Some alcohol usage can have beneficial health effects.

So can some marijuana use.

69 posted on 07/16/2018 12:16:28 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: fruser1
The case is Ferguson v. City of Charleston.

Like I said, not a Supreme Court ruling.

alcohol addicts would be banned too.

We wisely ended our last attempt to ban alcohol.

Yes, gov bans, just like the more benign excise taxes, tend to enrich criminals. So let's end government charity

Doesn't follow at all.

I never knew why it took an amendment to ban alcohol, but merely a statute to ban drugs.

Because at the time of Prohibition, FDR had not cowed the Court into torturing the Constitution to allow his big-government schemes.

70 posted on 07/16/2018 12:21:31 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: LS
Prohibition was a better money maker than its other operations.

Which is exactly the problem with all prohibitions - they're easy money for violent criminals.

71 posted on 07/16/2018 12:24:05 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: fieldmarshaldj
the current unconstitutional Controlled Substances act.

If you consider it to be unconstitutional. I do not.

But it is - it is based on a "substantial effect" test for interstate commerce authority that is found nowhere in the language of the Constitution and that Justice Clarence Thomas has condemned as a "rootless and malleable standard." (The same test that has authorized the federal big-welfare state, by the by.)

72 posted on 07/16/2018 1:22:14 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree
"Like I said"

Internet search is your friend.

It worked it's way to the Supreme Court in 2001.

6-3 decision. Scalia, Thomas, Rehnquist opposed.

73 posted on 07/16/2018 2:24:45 PM PDT by fruser1
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To: fruser1
Ferguson was about patient privacy not government charity. You're still batting 0.000.
74 posted on 07/16/2018 4:15:21 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: fruser1
In fact, Ferguson offers some support for welfare tests: "The use of an adverse test result to disqualify one from eligibility for a particular benefit [...] involves a less serious intrusion on privacy than the unauthorized dissemination of such results to third parties."
75 posted on 07/16/2018 4:20:35 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree

And, again, said profit motive could be made against all illegal narcotics. (We’re going in a circle here)


76 posted on 07/17/2018 1:13:55 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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To: NobleFree
"Nonsense - nobody profits from laws against murder, rape, or theft, at least not to anywhere near the degree they do from laws against drugs."

Of course people profit off of illegal activities, virtually whatever they may be.

77 posted on 07/17/2018 1:16:15 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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To: NobleFree

Only in the medically appropriate cases along the lines of the gentleman I was speaking with. In the other overwhelming instances, it is not.


78 posted on 07/17/2018 1:18:23 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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To: NobleFree

There’s a profit motive for murder worldwide. Let’s lead the way and decriminalize it here so criminals cannot make money off it.


79 posted on 07/17/2018 1:20:37 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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To: NobleFree

I disagree.


80 posted on 07/17/2018 1:21:12 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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