Is the United States a Democracy or a Police State?

Janitor's view ^ | May 26, 2018 | Reasonmclucus

[kathsua]

In a democracy elected officials control the police.. In a police state, the police can tell elected officials what to do. In a democracy elected officials can fire police leaders. In a police state police leaders cannot be fired by the officials the people have elected to supposedly run the government.

'In a police state Gestapo like police may terrorize political figures by invading their homes in the middle of the night like Robert Mueller did to .Paul J. Manafort. In a police state KGB like police may plant spies in political organizations like the Department of Justice did to Donald Trump.

Those who talk about the rule of law sometimes forget the most important of our laws are devoted to preventing misuse of the police powers to harass and intimidate political figures. One of the most important of these protections is the requirement that those making accusations be identified so the accused can challenge the charges. The accused may know that the accuser is likely to lie. Basing an investigation of a political candidate on an anonymous source violates the spirit if not the letter of this constitutional protection.

The most important of our laws is the United States Constitution. Article 2 of the United States Constitution states: " The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America."

The Constitution does not allow sharing of power with the Attorney General, the FBI Director or any other law enforcement official. Article 2 prohibits any law enforcement official from interrogating a president or trying to indict one. Such an action would be equivalent to an attempt to overthrow the government. Allowing the sharing of power would take away the people's power to control law enforcement,

[Howie66]

IF President Bush had done this to Bayrack Hussein Obama, I would have a little bit of respect for him. He did not and I do not.

[Popman]

Stupid question.....it’s neither

[Howie66]

“It’s still a republic.

If we can keep it.”

We can keep it.

IF we are prepared to do something beyond flapping our gums about it.

I am.

Are you?

[Garth Tater]

"Police State?

You’re crazy to even raise the question."

Three Felonies A Day: How the Feds Target the Innocent

[Bonemaker]

“It’s a republic with checks and balances, “

Except there are no checks and balances with the feeble Sessions at the helm.

[Bonemaker]

Who the hell knows what it is anymore.

[Hostage]

The 17th Amendment took down a large pillar holding up the Republic.

Another pillar is the Electoral College. If that goes down, then yes, we proceed to mob rule, in other words, a democracy.

[Peter ODonnell]

I will gird my loins if that’s okay, you guys grind them if you wish.

[Balding_Eagle]

“Three Felonies A Day: How the Feds Target the Innocent”

Seems like a very low bar you have to enter ‘Police State’ status.

What do you call it when it elevates to something like North Korea?

[liberalism is suicide]

The US is supposed to be a Constitutional Republic.But its ruled like a Democracy on its way to becoming a Police State.

[liberalism is suicide]

The US is supposed to be a Constitutional Republic.But its ruled like a Democracy on its way to becoming a Police State.

[Balding_Eagle]

Now that I believe.

So, if we call it a police state now, what will we call it later?

[Garth Tater]

"Americans will be escaping into Mexico for Freedom."

That's not the way it works around here. When it's time to water the tree, you water the damn tree. You don't run your butt down to Mexico.

The Charge of the Light Brigade

...
Storm’d at with shot and shell,
Boldly they rode and well,
Into  the jaws of Death,
Into the mouth of Hell  Mexico?

[Oscar in Batangas]

It’s a Constitutional Republic with some pretty bad people’s hands still on levers in the swamp

[ChildOfThe60s]

Gird your loins

Grinding one’s loins is an act of passion. Which does have its own appeal.

[elcid1970]

We’re not a police state but Britain now is. Officially.

Free Tommy Robinson!

[Garth Tater]

"What do you call it when it elevates to something like North Korea?"

A police state. They come in many shapes and sizes. Just because North Korea is worse does not make a country where you cannot avoid committing major crimes every day and thereby putting yourself at the mercy of your govt masters should you come to their attention by stepping out of line NOT a police state. Or are you just happy that your chains rest lighter than theirs?

Quote from Atlas Shrugged:

"Did you really think we want those laws observed?" said Dr. Ferris. "We want them to be broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against... We're after power and we mean it... There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, Mr. Reardon, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with.”

[Balding_Eagle]

North Korea...........Police State.

United States.........Police State.

Therefore North Korea and the United States are both in the same political situation.

I’m surprised you are even trying to defend such idiocy.

[21twelve]

I thought of that quote when reading about Tommy Robinson’s arrest in London for video taping the arrival of the muslims to their court hearing. Yes - it was illegal what he did.

[Garth Tater]

Duck..........Fowl.

Turkey........Fowl.

Therefore a duck and a turkey are the same things.

I'm surprised an idiot like you even tries to use logic in a refutation.