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This Is The Real Reason Britain Won’t Release Alfie Evans To Italy
Red State ^ | April 25, 2018 | Kira Davis

Posted on 04/26/2018 12:21:56 PM PDT by tom h

In recent weeks many people across the globe have been moved and outraged by the story of little Alfie Evans, whose life hung in the balance in a British hospital and whose fate was taken from the hands of his parents by the National Health Service (NHS) and the courts ...

Alfie was forcibly removed from his breathing devices but continues to breathe on his own. The NHS and the courts would not even allow Alfie to go home with his parents, and when the nation of Italy offered to fly him to a Rome hospital for experimental treatment (at their own expense) the courts told Alfie’s parents they would not be allowed to leave the country.

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This is exactly the point in the ruling by the NHS and the courts to forbid their free citizens from leaving the country. If they are allowed to flee the heart-wrenching consequences of socialism, then others will want to do the same. How can a socialist system work without the cooperation of everyone? And how can you force people to participate in that socialist system when they discover that system may kill them or their loved ones?

You build a wall.

Great Britain doesn’t yet have a wall to keep its citizens in, but the courts have built one with the law. Just as East Germany could not tolerate the massive loss of defectors who were leaving with their training, intellect and tax dollars, Great Britain’s healthcare system cannot tolerate the defection of those who might find better healthcare somewhere else.

(Excerpt) Read more at redstate.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine; Local News; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: alfie; childrenofthestate; nhs; obamacare; obamacarefuture; socialism; socializedmedicine
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To: tom h

OUTSTANDING writing. Nothing to add but applause.


21 posted on 04/26/2018 1:09:09 PM PDT by CaptainPhilFan
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To: tom h

“Great Britain doesn’t yet have a wall to keep its citizens in...”
Hadrian’s Wall was one of the first to limit movement of populations as a means of self protection.


22 posted on 04/26/2018 1:10:11 PM PDT by BuffaloJack (Chivalry is not dead. It is a warriors code and only practiced by warriors.)
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To: pepsi_junkie
" If he goes somewhere else and thrives they look stupid, cruel, and heartless."

Ding ding ding. We have a winner.

23 posted on 04/26/2018 1:10:55 PM PDT by BubbaBasher ("Liberty will not long survive the total extinction of morals" - Sam Adams)
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To: tom h
it was a battle between her parents and her husband.

True enough ... so let's see if the British government follows the lead of Schiavo's husband who, because she too kept living when taken off the ventilator, found a judge who allowed him -- ruling against her parents "in the name of justice", mind you -- to cut off her food and water and she, of course, could not survive that horror.

24 posted on 04/26/2018 1:14:20 PM PDT by glennaro
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To: Califreak
They already look cruel, heartless and evil.

Yes but for now they can rationalize to themselves and other big government fans that their actions were noble, sparing the child needless suffering. But only if the baby hurries up and dies before even their supporters begin to wonder if they are actually monsters. If he lingers or, god forbid, actually lives then the whole system gets a black eye. In their minds, better one baby be murdered than their apple cart get upset.

So their not just cruel and heartless, they are indeed evil. But I'm sure they don't see it that way, they likely say we are evil for fighting to keep this baby alive and threatening their entire death panel system.

25 posted on 04/26/2018 1:16:23 PM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Russians couldnt have done a better job destroying sacred American institutions than Democrats have)
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To: montag813

Why are we even allied with these people.

And the president is travelling to England on Friday, July 13th for an official visit. Good luck with that.


26 posted on 04/26/2018 1:17:01 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Washington is NOT a swamp.....It's a cesspool!)
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To: tom h

“Coming to the USA soon if Obamacare is not overturned.”

A major reason why many of us were screaming for the GOP to honor their promise to repeal that monstrosity.

I couldn’t believe how many establishment sellouts here were so willing to give up and ‘move on’ because, well, we ‘just don’t have the votes!’.

This is the one thing that should have been fought for tooth and nail. But too many pajama boys in the GOP.


27 posted on 04/26/2018 1:18:21 PM PDT by Paulie (America without Christ is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
Why are we even allied with these people.

It will all officially end when "King Charles III" converts to Islam.

28 posted on 04/26/2018 1:27:35 PM PDT by montag813
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To: tom h

The EU is the new USSR.


29 posted on 04/26/2018 1:34:07 PM PDT by tiki
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To: tom h

Alfie’s parents need to hire some mercenary’s to storm the hospital..


30 posted on 04/26/2018 1:36:13 PM PDT by mowowie
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To: tom h

Several years ago I read a story about a British woman who was diagnosed with cancer. She had spent a large part of her career on a committee within the National Health Service, which, in essence, made cancer treatment much rarer. The very same committee, all of which knew her, did the same thing for her; making the appointments between diagnosis and treatment so lengthy that the disease had progressed to the point where it was untreatable. In a way, it was heartening that this insider got the same treatment that the regular people got. The irony dripped off the article and formed a caustic puddle on my linoleum floor. At the end of it, I simply said, “Well, good.”

I knew a former British citizen, now American.
He regularly got appointments for his relatives. They’d fly over, he would take them to the doctor. If they had something serious, they’d stay with him while it was treated. I have read that this is illegal. If they are caught they can be denied all future care.

In the original Obamacare, individuals could be excluded from care by name. That’s some awesome power the government has. This is probably why we don’t read more from Canada and Britain on how bad the service really is; because the government can retaliate.


31 posted on 04/26/2018 1:48:44 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: tom h

The United Kingdom has an Iron Curtain.


32 posted on 04/26/2018 1:49:33 PM PDT by joshua c (To disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives)
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To: Haiku Guy

You must have read 1984 many times! My favorite book!


33 posted on 04/26/2018 1:50:40 PM PDT by gr8eman (Since God has been banished from our classrooms, Satan has filled the void.)
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To: NOVACPA

Every society that allows muzzies in will sooner or later be overrun by them but it is only the muzzies that know this truth.


34 posted on 04/26/2018 2:05:34 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: NOVACPA

London has, but the British still make up 90+ % of the population. Many whites have left London due to preferring to live amongst their own.


35 posted on 04/26/2018 2:31:34 PM PDT by Amberdawn (If Leftists Didn't Live By Double Standards, They'd Have No Standards At All.)
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To: BlackAdderess

From what I understand, the Italian hospital is offering to treat Alfie for free, so the NHS/taxpayers are not on the hook for his long term care.


36 posted on 04/26/2018 2:33:29 PM PDT by Amberdawn (If Leftists Didn't Live By Double Standards, They'd Have No Standards At All.)
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To: Redleg Duke
I feel that these bureaucrats are forcing these parents to kill some of them. I wouldn't blame the family one bit if they killed the people who are keeping their kid from leaving the hospital. Maybe that's what needs to happen before these idiots get the message.
37 posted on 04/26/2018 2:56:45 PM PDT by Peeps47 (Democrats are as corrupt as they are incompetent)
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To: Gen.Blather

Nothing was more clear to me about healthcare in the UK than the opening ceremony at the 2012 London Olympics.

I was raised in the 1960s and read all the great books about the British, the British Empire, the Royal Navy. Loved the Hornblower series, Oliver Twist, just about everything from Dickens. Studied the atlas and the globe, looking at the far reaches of the Empire. I loved the fact that, while Yanks had to have a revolution, the British were our cousins, and while they didn’t have our form of government or the Bill of Rights, an Englishman was as free as an American anyway.

But 2012? Instead of seeing pride in the Royal Navy or Empire, what we saw was a worship service to the NHS. Nurses dancing, patients lying on beds ... good heavens.

Only people with a Stalinist bent would do this. It’s like watching an Olympics in Moscow and having the Soviets do a dance to the wheat harvest or the gulag.

The Brits showed some resolve and backbone when they voted for Brexit. They need to not lose faith. They need to take back their government.


38 posted on 04/26/2018 3:30:37 PM PDT by tom h
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To: Telepathic Intruder

They may worship royalty but the Monarchy is all fantasy with petty power. The UK government is the real ruler that is more like a Soviet style state with a little Nazi thrown in.


39 posted on 04/26/2018 3:46:09 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: shanover

True, but technically the royal family has only delegated power to the PM and the MP’s. There is still no official limit on their own power. Whatever the case, the Bill of Rights is the best thing we Americans have that they don’t. It’s also the first thing Leftists in this country would get rid of if they could.


40 posted on 04/26/2018 3:52:50 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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